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Kasz216 on 14 November 2012
leo-j said:

Wii U is competing with PS3/360.. yes it can be and should be considered NINTENDO'S NEX GEN SYSTEM.. but in truth it really is competing with PS3/360 and for the same HD market they currently dominate..

You do realize that's exactly how every single generation happens right?

One new console enters into the old market and competes with the old competitors.

It was no different with the 360 last generation.



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sales2099 on 14 November 2012

So 2014 confirmed. Because making next gen games takes time.



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Jaywood2010 on 14 November 2012
Heavenly_King said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Bristow9091 said:
I hope it's the most powerful of the three next gen consoles, but at the same time, easier to code for, so we don't see shoddy ports again, lol.


It will be fine. They wont make the same mistake twice. They know what they need to do now. We'll all find out soon.


Yeah that's what they said about the Vita too....


So basically you're billing them for failure?

No, I'm not saying that.  I love sony but they have had horrible business plans for a while now so who knows with them.


They fucked up this gen, but managed to keep credibility and gained respect as a first party developer more than any of their competitors this gen. They also increased their online capabilities, which keep them as a hot commodity for initial core gamers who want to be early adopters. We've heard no peep out of Uncharted and we know the next game is being held back until next gen for sure. Lets see whether Sony starts with a bang shall we? They might have screwed up the Vita launch, but the PS3 was profitable for a reason and I think they've learned from the PS3's mistakes.


I agree about the first party for sure.  Uncharted though is another who knows though.  Looking at Naughty Dog they usually just do 3 games in a series.  I love Uncharted so I hope they at least make one more though.  Sony needs to stop giving Uncharted to other studios though because other studioes will ruin it. 

Bend Studios did a great job.

Lets change that to average which compared to naught dog was simply horrible.   Comparing an amazing game to something as average.....That is one reason the vita gets criticized.




       

Jaywood2010 on 14 November 2012
leo-j said:
JayWood2010 said:
Chark said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Bristow9091 said:
I hope it's the most powerful of the three next gen consoles, but at the same time, easier to code for, so we don't see shoddy ports again, lol.


It will be fine. They wont make the same mistake twice. They know what they need to do now. We'll all find out soon.


Yeah that's what they said about the Vita too....


What's that suppose to mean? Did they launch a handheld system that is selling at a loss and is hard to code for? Don't be that guy.

One of PSP's biggest flaws was it tried to mimic console gaming.  While this worked at first it eventually stagnated.  The Vita is doing the same thing with a high price point like the PS3's launch with no titles that appeals to a mass amount of people.  They learned nothing from the PSP or the PS3 launch looking at the Vita.  That is what that meant.

except the PSP was trying to run PS2 games on hardware that couldn't run PS2 games.. in fact it was receiving hybrid Mobile/PS2 port like games.. that didn't have much of the PS2 games features..

Vita is doing the opposite.. vita is basically trying to be a PS3 in your pocket.. which is different than a PSP, which was tryin to offer console like graphics on pocket and that's all.. Vita has PSN behind it.. and hardware somewhere between Wii and PS3.. and is capable of running games almost on par with ps3.. like need for speed most wanted.. open world.. visuals almost on par with ps3 version.. but less traffic/online players(although still the same core game)..


This entire comment makes no sense.

PSP and Vita has almost the exact same strategy.

PSP mimics the PS2

Vita mimics the PS3

How about going back and looking at software sold on the PSP.  For the first few years the thing sold really well and then people didnt care any more and it dropped.  Pirating was also an issue.

The Vita hasn't even had a good start because people already know what to expect from Sony in the hand held market.  People has lost faith in Sony and as you all will probably notice, console like games on the go doesn't work well.  Why?  Because you can get a better version on a home console that people already own.




       

superchunk on 14 November 2012

We've known this since November 1st. Old story... its also already accounted for in my comparison thread (see sig).



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z101 on 14 November 2012
leo-j said:

Wii U is competing with PS3/360.. yes it can be and should be considered NINTENDO'S NEX GEN SYSTEM.. but in truth it really is competing with PS3/360 and for the same HD market they currently dominate..

I don't see Wii U affecting the nexgen offerings from Sony and Microsoft too much..

Are you serious this is a ridicolous statement.

And the Vita, because is is more powerful as the 3DS is not affected by 3DS? 

Even the graphical differences between  PS4 and Wii U will be much less than between Vita and 3DS.



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Turkish on 14 November 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:

The next dev kit is supposedly going to be sent in Janurary and the final version should be up and running at summer 2013. I believe the PS4 will be ready next year and will be revealed at E3 after this! 

http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/11/01/news-ps4-developer-kits-version-2-surface


14 day old news.



Alby_da_Wolf on 14 November 2012
kowenicki said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
kowenicki said:
Why do people take disollitude on in 3D or discussions of this type. He knows this stuff.

On topic, PS4 has to come next year or they are looking at 3rd again. In Japan for instance a one year lead to the WiiU is suicide.

Being 3rd, but this time without huge initial losses, and possibly reaching 2nd place late, could be acceptable. Sony has a narrower range of choices than MS. As for competition with Wii U, being one year late could be a bad start, but being two years late could change the game and avoid direct competition. It would still be just one year later than XB720, so Sony would be playing two different games with Ninty and MS. With Ninty, and in Japan, it could be almost like breaking the generation concept, but if you consider that, due to different audiences in the major regions, they all are already playing almost three different games, the paradigm change could be less dramatic than it looks like.


That is a possibility but you have to consider 3rd party developers. Not sure they will like it? Or perhaps they will prefer it? 

Absolutely true. About this, the best Sony can do is what it's already doing (and what MS too is doing with XB360), supporting its platforms for a long time, this reassures devs enough, and they're clearly showing it supporting both PS3 and XB360 very well even in this late period of their lives. But surely, in the initial years a larger share of the weight of supporting the new console will fall on Sony's and 1st parties' shoulders. This is unavoidable. But given the harsh period, particularly in Sony's strongest regions, 3rd parties would do the same anyway, so a prudent and profit oriented approach is maybe Sony's safest bet. Anyway, about this, Sony is actually dealing with 3rd parties, so they already know the answer to our questions, while we'll only be able to know when HW will actually launch and seeing what SW will be launched with it.



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leo-j on 14 November 2012
Kasz216 said:
leo-j said:

Wii U is competing with PS3/360.. yes it can be and should be considered NINTENDO'S NEX GEN SYSTEM.. but in truth it really is competing with PS3/360 and for the same HD market they currently dominate..

You do realize that's exactly how every single generation happens right?

One new console enters into the old market and competes with the old competitors.

It was no different with the 360 last generation.


people aren't upgrading to a WII u from a ps3/360 more than likely.. it isn't a successor to the HD consoles.. it's nintendo's jump into the HD market with hardware slightly more powerful than the HD consoles.. and a tablet controller that is meant to bring dual screen gaming to consoles..



 

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leo-j on 14 November 2012
z101 said:
leo-j said:

Wii U is competing with PS3/360.. yes it can be and should be considered NINTENDO'S NEX GEN SYSTEM.. but in truth it really is competing with PS3/360 and for the same HD market they currently dominate..

I don't see Wii U affecting the nexgen offerings from Sony and Microsoft too much..

Are you serious this is a ridicolous statement.

And the Vita, because is is more powerful as the 3DS is not affected by 3DS? 

Even the graphical differences between  PS4 and Wii U will be much less than between Vita and 3DS.

according to who? The rock sitting under a tree?

 

Isn't the 3DS visually almost on par with Wii? While the PSv is visually almost on par with PS3? That's a big difference.. and I DOUBT.. the gap between PS4 and WII u is smaller than that.. considering we have already seen some nexgen ip running on unknown hardware like.. starwars 1313.. that looks leaps and bounds ahead of anything this gen..



 

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