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Farsala on 09 November 2012
fillet said:
JoeTheBro said:
Teflon02 said:
So I'll get straight to the point
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
- Kratos (anyone who plays games knows Kratos)
- Ratchet & Clank (Sony's most known exclusive Platformer characters)
- Jak & Daxter (From Naughty Dog, also platforming rivals to Ratchet and argued about as to whether its better or ratchet)
- Sly Cooper (The third rivaling platforming series to Ratchet and Jak games, it is the least known and least popular of the 3 but everyone who actually isn't blind seen him before aswell)
- Sackboy (If you don't know Sackboy then you clearly shouldn't even talk, LittleBigPlanet)
- Sweet Tooth (Anyone not born in the late 90s onward knows him and anyone after should know him, Twisted Metal is the biggest Car Combat series and the best and Sweet Tooth is the Biggest character in the series)
- Spike (He is more popular with the japanese croud I believe, but He isn't to known, but I'm sure people known Ape Escape, cause that's a popular old series)
- Sir Dan (I actually didn't know who that was and then I looked it up and realized I did just didn't know his name, I use to play medevil back in the day at a friends)
- Raiden (well known Metal Gear Solid Character releasing a spinoff title next year, and premiered on PS2 in MGS2)
- Nariko (people may not know her name but everyone should know her by atleast Heavenly Sword Girl, see was popularized as the Female Kratos, if you don't know her your either not a game player, or just in denial, her commercial played forever, the demo was on all demo ps3s for like 2 years)
- Big Daddy (Is well known, you know him if you play anything apart from nintendo, cause it is heavily advertised)
- Good/Evil Cole (inFamous, also anyone who played the series knows there are drastically different)
- Dante (Devil May Cry, possible some don't know his name cause it was a hardcore ps2 hit so only the fans of the style really knew it good)
- Fat Princess should be known by ALL PS3, as Fat Princess is one of the best and one of the highest selling PSN titles
- Parappa (was a popular PSOne game that only people old enough at the time would remember, I personally didn't play a Parappa game but ALWAYS knew who he was)
- Radec (Killzone, people who haven't played killzone probably don't know him, but anyone could tell where hes from)
- Mr Tekken (no excuse for anyone, Tekken is one of the biggest Fighting games, if you don't know him, its nothing to use against the game, I know him by looks, yet I hate and don't play tekken, though it isn't really a bad series, just im a SF kinda guy)
- Toro has been in streetfighter x tekken and a few other games but really is the mascot for PS in JPN so its understandable
- Drake (Uncharted is all I have to say)
Point is apart from about 3 characters all of these characters are popular enough to where this article is just non sense.
I play abunch of Nintendo from Nintendo to N64 All I had was Nintendo stuff (got PSOne in 1999) and yet in the first smash I played and was like
Mario!
Luigi!
Yoshi!
Donkey Kong!
Link!
Pikachu!
Jiggly Puff!
Then I was like
Fox?
Samus...
Captain Falcon (WTF!?)
Ness (WTF!?)
I realized who fox was after cause I owned Star Fox 64, but I didn't think it was him cause his name wasn't star fox. But my point is I didn't know 3 for the original smash and now, I know them and Ness is one of my fav Nintendo characters and I like earthbound and tried it only cause smash. I didn't know, Game and Watch, Ice Climbers, Marth, Roy, etc in Melee and found out who they were cause of it and Note apart from 2 LSA has 19 Series in it, I'm not even sure, Brawl has 19 different games. Also, they could easily do stuff lime make Dr. Nafarious, Captain Quark, Sully, Sev, Elena, The Murray, and so on but one character is enough for now. It has nothing to do with characters not being known cause Quark is well known, sully is and so on

Solid post.

fillet said:
...Funny how everyone in this thread makes everything all about them.

Rather narrow minded and not becoming of a would be sales analyst...that you all seem to credit yourselves as.

It's fact *most people* don't have a clue who *most* of the roster is.

most people does not = you, which is rather obvious really....but apparently not.

Most people aren't gamers and wouldn't know this game existed. Obviously we scale down "most people" to "most gamers" so that it is even worth discussing. However that train of thought continues and scales "most gamers" to "Sony gamers". Beyond that we can get so specific as "hardcore Sony gamers that play religiously". Obviously most people know 0/20 while at the opposite side of the spectrum hardcore sony players know 20/20. The important question I think is where this 10/20 croud lies which judging by these posts is right above "most gamers".


To simplfy further, is that even possible?

Obviously I'm talking about people who play video games, wtf else would I be talking about?

Most of them would not recognize most of this roster. That means, most PS3 owning gamers too, it's just common sense, these are not recognizable people, it's not hard to put yourself in the mind of the average person that owns a PS3...sheesh. Obviously there are hardcore types who will know all those characters, but the MAJORITY will not know more than half. That is very important for a game.

I mean the appeal of a fighter is it's characters or branding.

Kind  of a ridiculous post. If you reverse that and average person that owned a N64 who knew the characters before release. Most would just say Mario. It is obvious that Sony does not have a Mario, but they have lots of moderate known people like smash did.



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miz1q2w3e on 09 November 2012
pezus said:
Jay520 said:

Pezus never has proof...for anything. Don't believe anything that comes put of his mouth.

Not a very good advice, because I don't spit the words on the screen. I type them. You're probably annoyed that you're going to lose our bet.

Also, reported

Not sure if serious.



S.T.A.G.E. on 09 November 2012

If Allstars doesn't make sense to you...its either one of two things.

1. You're not keen on Sony first party.
2. You don't play some of the hottest multiplats.



JWeinCom on 09 November 2012
Farsala said:
fillet said:


To simplfy further, is that even possible?

Obviously I'm talking about people who play video games, wtf else would I be talking about?

Most of them would not recognize most of this roster. That means, most PS3 owning gamers too, it's just common sense, these are not recognizable people, it's not hard to put yourself in the mind of the average person that owns a PS3...sheesh. Obviously there are hardcore types who will know all those characters, but the MAJORITY will not know more than half. That is very important for a game.

I mean the appeal of a fighter is it's characters or branding.

Kind  of a ridiculous post. If you reverse that and average person that owned a N64 who knew the characters before release. Most would just say Mario. It is obvious that Sony does not have a Mario, but they have lots of moderate known people like smash did.

Lol.  Do you really think all of those people who know Mario didn't know Luigi and Yoshi?  Do you think they didn't know who link was when Ocarina of Time sold over 7 million copies?  Do you think there are many people out there who weren't familiar with Donkey Kong?  Do you think that people didn't know who Pikachu and Jigglypuff were when Pokemon Red and Blue sold 30 Million copies and Pokemon was the most popular thing on planet Earth?  Do you think that people didn't know who Star Fox was when Star Fox 64 sold 4 million copies?  Even Kirby had a five million seller under his belt and regularly pushed out about 1.5-2 million copies per game.  Ditto for Samus.

The only characters you can claim were really obscure in that game were Captain Falcon and Ness.  Silly post is silly.



miz1q2w3e on 09 November 2012
pezus said:
miz1q2w3e said:

Not sure if serious.

Serious level: Not

*The joker*

 :p



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Farsala on 09 November 2012
JWeinCom said:
Farsala said:
fillet said:
 


To simplfy further, is that even possible?

Obviously I'm talking about people who play video games, wtf else would I be talking about?

Most of them would not recognize most of this roster. That means, most PS3 owning gamers too, it's just common sense, these are not recognizable people, it's not hard to put yourself in the mind of the average person that owns a PS3...sheesh. Obviously there are hardcore types who will know all those characters, but the MAJORITY will not know more than half. That is very important for a game.

I mean the appeal of a fighter is it's characters or branding.

Kind  of a ridiculous post. If you reverse that and average person that owned a N64 who knew the characters before release. Most would just say Mario. It is obvious that Sony does not have a Mario, but they have lots of moderate known people like smash did.

Lol.  Do you really think all of those people who know Mario didn't know Luigi and Yoshi?  Do you think they didn't know who link was when Ocarina of Time sold over 7 million copies?  Do you think there are many people out there who weren't familiar with Donkey Kong?  Do you think that people didn't know who Pikachu and Jigglypuff were when Pokemon Red and Blue sold 30 Million copies and Pokemon was the most popular thing on planet Earth?  Do you think that people didn't know who Star Fox was when Star Fox 64 sold 4 million copies?  Even Kirby had a five million seller under his belt and regularly pushed out about 1.5-2 million copies per game.  Ditto for Samus.

The only characters you can claim were really obscure in that game were Captain Falcon and Ness.  Silly post is silly.


Lol. And reverse. I admit nintendo fans will definitely know smash people before getting it. Sony fans definitely know majority of the people in PSASBR. And just because you threw out numbers....

God of war 20m-  more recognizable then all but pokemon and mario

Uncharted 15m- same as above

Ratchet and clank 15m- same as above

Jak and daxter 10m- same as above

Parrappa= to Falcon and Ness

Twisted metal 10m- same as above

Bioshock 8m- Decent

 

Btw I didnt know pokemon did 12m in NA alone in 3 months as your post would suggest.

Need I go on? silly post is silly



JWeinCom on 09 November 2012
Farsala said:
JWeinCom said:
Farsala said:
fillet said:
 


To simplfy further, is that even possible?

Obviously I'm talking about people who play video games, wtf else would I be talking about?

Most of them would not recognize most of this roster. That means, most PS3 owning gamers too, it's just common sense, these are not recognizable people, it's not hard to put yourself in the mind of the average person that owns a PS3...sheesh. Obviously there are hardcore types who will know all those characters, but the MAJORITY will not know more than half. That is very important for a game.

I mean the appeal of a fighter is it's characters or branding.

Kind  of a ridiculous post. If you reverse that and average person that owned a N64 who knew the characters before release. Most would just say Mario. It is obvious that Sony does not have a Mario, but they have lots of moderate known people like smash did.

Lol.  Do you really think all of those people who know Mario didn't know Luigi and Yoshi?  Do you think they didn't know who link was when Ocarina of Time sold over 7 million copies?  Do you think there are many people out there who weren't familiar with Donkey Kong?  Do you think that people didn't know who Pikachu and Jigglypuff were when Pokemon Red and Blue sold 30 Million copies and Pokemon was the most popular thing on planet Earth?  Do you think that people didn't know who Star Fox was when Star Fox 64 sold 4 million copies?  Even Kirby had a five million seller under his belt and regularly pushed out about 1.5-2 million copies per game.  Ditto for Samus.

The only characters you can claim were really obscure in that game were Captain Falcon and Ness.  Silly post is silly.


Lol. And reverse. I admit nintendo fans will definitely know smash people before getting it. Sony fans definitely know majority of the people in PSASBR. And just because you threw out numbers....

God of war 20m-  more recognizable then all but pokemon and mario

Uncharted 15m- same as above

Ratchet and clank 15m- same as above

Jak and daxter 10m- same as above

Parrappa= to Falcon and Ness

Twisted metal 10m- same as above

Bioshock 8m- Decent

 

Btw I didnt know pokemon did 12m in NA alone in 3 months as your post would suggest.

Need I go on? silly post is silly

Smash came out in April 1999.  Pokemon was the end of september 98.  So, it was actually 7 months.  Considering how popular Pokemon was, unless you were living in a cave from the time Pokemon came out to the time smash came out, you knew who pikachu was. Plus the game had been available in other regions for a couple of years by that point.

And I never said anything about Nintendo characters being more recognizable than Sony's.  I was just pointing out the sheer idiocy of someone claiming that people playing Smash Bros were not aware of DK, Luigi, Link, Pikachu, and so on.  Are you trying to defend that position?



logic56 on 09 November 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Allstars doesn't make sense to you...its either one of two things.

1. You're not keen on Sony first party.
2. You don't play some of the hottest multiplats.


so Nintendo fans *looks at posters in thread* well what do you know



Burning Typhoon on 09 November 2012

So, I guess when fighting games get new characters, they all automatically suck, right? I mean, look at Lili, Asuka, Feng Wei, Raven, and Dragunov. All crappy characters. And, so were all the characters in Street Fighter II except Ryu, Ken, and Sagat. They should have had Adon, Geki, etc. in the game... Not Guile.

Because having something new, and fresh is totally a bad idea.

Get to know the characters, and have a reason for hating them before actually hating them. The only character I hate in the game thus far is Fat Princess... She doesn't fit, and does not hold up to the promise of "characters being rendered similarly to the games they game from." To me, all the character's art styles look exactly the same. Would have been better off sticking Roll from megaman in the game.



Turkish on 09 November 2012

Its okay, you'll get to know them in PSASBR.