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DieAppleDie on 08 November 2012

filtered i lil bit, still lots of decent to great games


Alice in Wonderland
Alone in the Dark
Arc Rise Fantasia
Baroque
Bleach: Shattered Blade
Boom Blox
Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templar (Director's Cut
Brothers in Arms: Double Time
Bully: Scholarship Edition
Call of Duty 3
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex Edition
Call of Duty: World at War
Castelvania Judgment
The Conduit
Conduit 2
Crash: Mind over Mutant
Cursed Mountain
Anno: Create A New world
Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop
Dead Space: Extraction
Deadly Creatures
Disney Epic Mickey
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Dragon Ball: Revenge of King Piccolo
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online
Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter
Earth Seeker
Elebits
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon
Ghostbusters: The Video Game
TheGodfather: Blackhand Edition
GoldenEye 007
Grand Slam Tennis
Guilty Gear XX Λ Core
Harvest Moon: Animal Parade
Harvest Moon: Magical Melody
Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility
The House of the Dead: Overkill
King of Fighters Collection: The Orochi Saga
The Last Story
Little King's Story
Lost in Blue: Shipwrecked
Lost in Shadow
MadWorld
Manhunt 2
Medal of Honor: Heroes 2
Medal of Honor: Vanguard
Nocturne
Monster Hunter Tri
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Mushroom Men
Need for Speed: Nitro
Nights: Journey of Dreams
No More Heroes
No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle
Obscure: The Aftermath
Ōkami
Opoona
Overlord: Dark Legend
Phantom Brave: We Meet Again
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sand
Pro Evolution Soccer
Project Zero 2: Wii
Rayman Origins
Red Steel
Red Steel 2
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil
Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
Rune Factory Frontier
Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny
Scarface: The World Is Yours
Secret Files: Tunguska
Secret Files 2: Puritas Cordis
Shiren the Wanderer
Sid Meiers pirates!
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Skate It
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Sonic Colors
Spectrobes: Origins
Spider-Man: Web of Shadows
SSX Blur
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Tales of Graces
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars
Tomb Raider: Anniversary
Trauma Center: New Blood
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga
Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure




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happydolphin on 08 November 2012

What was the logic for what you filtered out in the 2nd list?

Anyways, that's a very interesting list. We can then offer that list to naysayers and ask if they would like any of those games. If not, then it's fundamental they answer the condition for them liking a game.

In the end, if you can show that their goalposts are unreasonable, then you win.



osed125 on 08 November 2012

Why do we have a Nintendo defense thread if only us Nintendo fans are posting? :p 

Well the other users are probably watching us from the distance... 



Nintendo and PC gamer

DieAppleDie on 08 November 2012

Well my list goes for all the PS/Xbox fans who claim Wii has a weak or small 3rd party game library
but it also goes for HappyD ;)



Veknoid_Outcast on 09 November 2012

In order to have a serious conversation about Nintendo in general and the seventh generation in particular, you need everyone to agree on two things:

One, there are no such things as hardcore games and casual games. Video games can be classified according to a number of criteria -- genre, ESRB rating, developer, publisher -- but to separate games into hardcore and casual is counterproductive.

Two, there is a difference between descriptive words and normative words. "Violent," "dark," and "mature" are useful in describing a game, but not useful in assigning value.

If everyone can agree on those two things, then maybe we can have a healthy debate.



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noname2200 on 09 November 2012
d21lewis said:
Can the OP change the thread title from "Defence" to "Defense". The enemy will never take us seriously like this.

It's just a ruse to make Them think we're all British, and therefore proper. They'll lower their guard and then *WHAM!* we sic Rol on them.

 

Veknoid_Outcast said:
In order to have a serious conversation about Nintendo in general and the seventh generation in particular, you need everyone to agree on two things:

One, there are no such things as hardcore games and casual games. Video games can be classified according to a number of criteria -- genre, ESRB rating, developer, publisher -- but to separate games into hardcore and casual is counterproductive.

Two, there is a difference between descriptive words and normative words. "Violent," "dark," and "mature" are useful in describing a game, but not useful in assigning value.

If everyone can agree on those two things, then maybe we can have a healthy debate.

Speaking collectively for the internet, we reject your deal.



Panama on 09 November 2012

Those pesky minorities are it again with their constructive criticism.



DanneSandin on 09 November 2012
Veknoid_Outcast said:
In order to have a serious conversation about Nintendo in general and the seventh generation in particular, you need everyone to agree on two things:

One, there are no such things as hardcore games and casual games. Video games can be classified according to a number of criteria -- genre, ESRB rating, developer, publisher -- but to separate games into hardcore and casual is counterproductive.

Two, there is a difference between descriptive words and normative words. "Violent," "dark," and "mature" are useful in describing a game, but not useful in assigning value.

If everyone can agree on those two things, then maybe we can have a healthy debate.

I think this is very good! Well done Veknoid!! I like it! I really think you nailed it!!



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DanneSandin on 09 November 2012
happydolphin said:
Core and casual has been used to distinguish between a few things, hence why they are so hard to follow in a debate. To distinguish between:

1) Games that habitual gamers play and non-habitual gamers play.
2) Games that are traditional, and games that are a new type of experience.
3) Games that tend to require a sit-down period and those that are pick up and play.
4) Games that have darker themes and games that have lighter themes.
5) Games that have more violent and sexual themes, and those that do not.
6) Games that have kiddy themes and those that do not.
7) Games that evoke deeper emotions and those that do not.
8) Games with intricate art design and those that are simplistic.

The list continues.

But in the end, what matters is what the person using the word is trying to express. If Core and Casual are words that don't work for you, there's a reason. It's because they are so broad for the time being. Until people use more precise words to denote what they mean, we are left with asking the question.

Thing is, using that list what's core and what's casual fluctuate over time. SMB isn't a core game by that standard, nor is NSMB. It could be argued that Zelda SS in certain regards is a casual game... And where does that list leave strategy games? They don't really have dark themes - or light themes either. They're not that violent nor sexual... But they're not kiddy games either... And do they evoke deeper emotions? I don't think so... And quite often they have rather simplistic art styles...

I think that Veknoid made a great post about how to talk about games!!!

 



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miz1q2w3e on 09 November 2012

http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/

I immediately thought of that.