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VGKing on 11 November 2012
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
VGKing said:
BenVTrigger said:
I just beat Halo 4s campaign.

Its the best looking FPS this generation bar none. Prior to this Killzone 3 was the best IMO but Halo 4 is quite a bit better than it.

At times the game is absolutly jaw dropping. I have no idea how 343 got this kind of performance out of the 360.

The game looks so good because of the CGI. 
CGI > Anything that can be rendered in-engine on any console

Anyway, how has this thread remained opened this long? It's obvious what the OP's intentions were with the thread.(based on this history) This turned into a PS3 vs. 360 thread right from page 1. 

THERES ONLY THREE CGI cut scenes in Halo 4. You do understand that right? Everything else is engine ran.

The three are the one in the beginning, middle and end.  Its not the CGI for pete's sake. 

Really? I've heard there is a mix between CG and in-engine throughout the cutscenes.



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VGKing on 11 November 2012
Mr Puggsly said:
Halo 4 is by far the best looking game I've ever seen.

Frankly I don't care if Sony fans agree. I just hope this ends all the debate about PS3 being more powerful.

Uh, it still is. That goes without saying.
It's 2012, there is enough information out there that proves it. 

Halo vs Killzone, Forza vs GT....at this point it all comes down to preference. No one can argue that these games are technically stunning and made by amazing and talented developers.



ECM on 11 November 2012
aronh17 said:

This pic is what I took from Gran Turismo 5 earlier and this is not even in photo mode, it's on Circuit de la Sarthe 2005. Hasn't anyone noticed all the "best looking games" run at 30 FPS? Btw, GT5 runs at 60, not to confuse.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7210/circuitdelasarthe2005.jpg


Almost nobody cares--as far as 95% of gamers are concerned, frame rate is of almost no importance, and devs, to my chagrin, develop with this attitude in mind, e.g. see Insomniac's comments about 60fps gameplay a few years back.



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Slimebeast on 11 November 2012

Judging from gameplay videos I think Halo 4 looks better than any other console game, especially if you take into account that it has so much good looking stuff happening on the screen at the same time.



SvennoJ on 11 November 2012
ECM said:
aronh17 said:

This pic is what I took from Gran Turismo 5 earlier and this is not even in photo mode, it's on Circuit de la Sarthe 2005. Hasn't anyone noticed all the "best looking games" run at 30 FPS? Btw, GT5 runs at 60, not to confuse.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7210/circuitdelasarthe2005.jpg


Almost nobody cares--as far as 95% of gamers are concerned, frame rate is of almost no importance, and devs, to my chagrin, develop with this attitude in mind, e.g. see Insomniac's comments about 60fps gameplay a few years back.

It matters for high speed racing, and GT5 also renders in 1280x1080. The higher vertical resolution gives a clearer view on the road.
So sure FH has more effects going on and better anti aliasing, but it also has 3 times as much time per pixel to produce the 720p30 picture. And as a result I've driven straight into medians at highspeed in FH that appeared out of nowhere, perfectly blended into the road.
Once you go 200 mph (89 m/s) the difference between 30 and 60fps starts to become important.



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 11 November 2012
VGKing said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
VGKing said:
BenVTrigger said:
I just beat Halo 4s campaign.

Its the best looking FPS this generation bar none. Prior to this Killzone 3 was the best IMO but Halo 4 is quite a bit better than it.

At times the game is absolutly jaw dropping. I have no idea how 343 got this kind of performance out of the 360.

The game looks so good because of the CGI. 
CGI > Anything that can be rendered in-engine on any console

Anyway, how has this thread remained opened this long? It's obvious what the OP's intentions were with the thread.(based on this history) This turned into a PS3 vs. 360 thread right from page 1. 

THERES ONLY THREE CGI cut scenes in Halo 4. You do understand that right? Everything else is engine ran.

The three are the one in the beginning, middle and end.  Its not the CGI for pete's sake. 

Really? I've heard there is a mix between CG and in-engine throughout the cutscenes.

I think ifyou count the hidden "Terminals". I think they launch a CGI cutscene whenever you find one.

But its nice to think that a person like you think Halo 4 engine is CGI level lol.  



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dahuman on 11 November 2012
Mr Puggsly said:
Halo 4 is by far the best looking game I've ever seen.

Frankly I don't care if Sony fans agree. I just hope this ends all the debate about PS3 being more powerful.


lol why you trolling man?



Mr Puggsly on 11 November 2012
VGKing said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Halo 4 is by far the best looking game I've ever seen.

Frankly I don't care if Sony fans agree. I just hope this ends all the debate about PS3 being more powerful.

Uh, it still is. That goes without saying.
It's 2012, there is enough information out there that proves it. 

Halo vs Killzone, Forza vs GT....at this point it all comes down to preference. No one can argue that these games are technically stunning and made by amazing and talented developers.

If it is, we're still waiting for it to be demonstrated.



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Mr Puggsly on 11 November 2012
dahuman said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Halo 4 is by far the best looking game I've ever seen.

Frankly I don't care if Sony fans agree. I just hope this ends all the debate about PS3 being more powerful.


lol why you trolling man?

I'm not. Now that the 360 has something that looks better than Killzone 3 and Uncharted 3, maybe we won't get beaten over the head with how amazing those games look.



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VGKing on 11 November 2012
ECM said:
aronh17 said:

This pic is what I took from Gran Turismo 5 earlier and this is not even in photo mode, it's on Circuit de la Sarthe 2005. Hasn't anyone noticed all the "best looking games" run at 30 FPS? Btw, GT5 runs at 60, not to confuse.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7210/circuitdelasarthe2005.jpg


Almost nobody cares--as far as 95% of gamers are concerned, frame rate is of almost no importance, and devs, to my chagrin, develop with this attitude in mind, e.g. see Insomniac's comments about 60fps gameplay a few years back.

Frame rate is extremely important. It kills me when a developer chooses 30FPS in order to push the graphics.....to me gameplay is much more important.
Ever enter an area within a game and notice a sort of "lag"? That means the frame rate is all over the place. It is extremely noticeable.