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Is Metacritic Flawed

Yes 51 60.71%
 
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smroadkill15 on 05 November 2012

Just use GameRanking instead. It doesn't just let any reviewer in and gives a slightly more accurate score for games imo.



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the_dengle on 05 November 2012
kain_kusanagi said:

A big website like IGN or Gamespot will assign a review best suited for the job. They aren't going to give a the latest Madden to someone who hates football. They are going to pick the person with the most sports and sports game knowledge to do the job.

lol, I don't trust Gamespot to do this at all. I also notice you include Destructoid in your list... the website of Jim Sterling? Now, I like Jim. I like the way he reviews things. It fits his style. But I also believe he goes out of his way to review games he's pretty sure he won't like just so that he can completely trash them.



think-man on 05 November 2012

Are we still making threads about this...Can't we just accept that not everyone thinks the same and that maybe halo 4 isn't as good as you would like it to be? I mean the reviewers are the only people that have actually played it, everyone thats complaining about the reviews hasn't even played the game so it doesn't make sense to say that they are wrong.



 

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kain_kusanagi on 05 November 2012
the_dengle said:
kain_kusanagi said:

A big website like IGN or Gamespot will assign a review best suited for the job. They aren't going to give a the latest Madden to someone who hates football. They are going to pick the person with the most sports and sports game knowledge to do the job.

lol, I don't trust Gamespot to do this at all. I also notice you include Destructoid in your list... the website of Jim Sterling? Now, I like Jim. I like the way he reviews things. It fits his style. But I also believe he goes out of his way to review games he's pretty sure he won't like just so that he can completely trash them.


Should I swap Destructoid for Gameinformer?



Veknoid_Outcast on 05 November 2012
kain_kusanagi said:
bananaking21 said:
this is ridiculous, why cant people just accept that it isnt performing as high as they expected? every game gets its fair share of bad reviews. you guys are literally saying "lets take out all the bad reviews because we dont agree with them" and the op is saying "lets choose which reviews we want to take, and get the average out of the reviews we picked". is metacritic perfect? no, but guess what, all games go through the same thing, all reviews are taken and average is taken from the scores, whether its mario, halo, uncharted, CoD, or games like pitfall. the same rules apply to all.

 

Yes the same rules apply, but the same reviewers aren't used. The only review sites that get tallied every time are the top ones that go out of their way to employ enough reviewers to review all the latest games. Halo 4 is getting what amounts to troll shots because a few websites are using it to garner hits.

As for your the top 10 websites in the OP. I didn't pick them so much as grabbed them from a list of top gaming websites. I didn't choose the scores and find the websites. I grabbed well respected websites and found the review scores for the list.

What I'm proposing is that a set of 10 websites be used for ALL future arrogates. That way we don't have huge divides in the quality of the reviews uses to average it out. The same top websites will always produce quality reviews with integrity. I find it a little insulting, but really not that insulting, that you would think I went out and found the best scores I could. If I wanted to list ten perfect Halo scores I could.

But the utility of Metacritic, and sites like it, is in providing a heuristic tool for consumers who want to see the critical consensus for a particular game. Limiting the reviews to only ten wouldn't make it a very useful tool. In theory, Metacritic should become a more helpful site as more and more reviews are added.



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kain_kusanagi on 05 November 2012
think-man said:
Are we still making threads about this...Can't we just accept that not everyone thinks the same and that maybe halo 4 isn't as good as you would like it to be? I mean the reviewers are the only people that have actually played it, everyone thats complaining about the reviews hasn't even played the game so it doesn't make sense to say that they are wrong.


20 websites with scores between 80 and 100 with most in the 90s or 2 websites calling it total shit. Opinion is one thing, but a game can't be both the worest and the best.



bananaking21 on 05 November 2012
kain_kusanagi said:
bananaking21 said:
this is ridiculous, why cant people just accept that it isnt performing as high as they expected? every game gets its fair share of bad reviews. you guys are literally saying "lets take out all the bad reviews because we dont agree with them" and the op is saying "lets choose which reviews we want to take, and get the average out of the reviews we picked". is metacritic perfect? no, but guess what, all games go through the same thing, all reviews are taken and average is taken from the scores, whether its mario, halo, uncharted, CoD, or games like pitfall. the same rules apply to all.

 

Yes the same rules apply, but the same reviewers aren't used. The only review sites that get tallied every time are the top ones that go out of their way to employ enough reviewers to review all the latest games. Halo 4 is getting what amounts to troll shots because a few websites are using it to garner hits.

As for your the top 10 websites in the OP. I didn't pick them so much as grabbed them from a list of top gaming websites. I didn't choose the scores and find the websites. I grabbed well respected websites and found the review scores for the list.

What I'm proposing is that a set of 10 websites be used for ALL future arrogates. That way we don't have huge divides in the quality of the reviews uses to average it out. The same top websites will always produce quality reviews with integrity. I find it a little insulting, but really not that insulting, that you would think I went out and found the best scores I could. If I wanted to list ten perfect Halo scores I could.

i ment no insult to you or anybody, and honestly i dont understand how you would be insulted. but in a way you did chose the websties because you only decided to take the top ten, why just 10? why not the top 20? top 30? plus there is a flaw in your suggestion as one of your top and "respected" sites, IGN did have some controversy regarding review scores, check this thread. reviews are flawed, we all know what but when you take all the reviews, it usually gives out a good idea of how the game is.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=149030&page=3#1



kain_kusanagi on 05 November 2012
Veknoid_Outcast said:
kain_kusanagi said:
bananaking21 said:
this is ridiculous, why cant people just accept that it isnt performing as high as they expected? every game gets its fair share of bad reviews. you guys are literally saying "lets take out all the bad reviews because we dont agree with them" and the op is saying "lets choose which reviews we want to take, and get the average out of the reviews we picked". is metacritic perfect? no, but guess what, all games go through the same thing, all reviews are taken and average is taken from the scores, whether its mario, halo, uncharted, CoD, or games like pitfall. the same rules apply to all.

 

Yes the same rules apply, but the same reviewers aren't used. The only review sites that get tallied every time are the top ones that go out of their way to employ enough reviewers to review all the latest games. Halo 4 is getting what amounts to troll shots because a few websites are using it to garner hits.

As for your the top 10 websites in the OP. I didn't pick them so much as grabbed them from a list of top gaming websites. I didn't choose the scores and find the websites. I grabbed well respected websites and found the review scores for the list.

What I'm proposing is that a set of 10 websites be used for ALL future arrogates. That way we don't have huge divides in the quality of the reviews uses to average it out. The same top websites will always produce quality reviews with integrity. I find it a little insulting, but really not that insulting, that you would think I went out and found the best scores I could. If I wanted to list ten perfect Halo scores I could.

But the utility of Metacritic, and sites like it, is in providing a heuristic tool for consumers who want to see the critical consensus for a particular game. Limiting the reviews to only ten wouldn't make it a very useful tool. In theory, Metacritic should become a more helpful site as more and more reviews are added.

Like I said, their's no consistancy. A game like Halo has to deal with troll blogs posting shit scores while other games do not. That's not helpfull. The reviews used should be of only the hihgest quality. Only websites with established credibility and integrety should be used. That list can be as long as  you want, but it has to be consistant.



kain_kusanagi on 05 November 2012
bananaking21 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
bananaking21 said:
this is ridiculous, why cant people just accept that it isnt performing as high as they expected? every game gets its fair share of bad reviews. you guys are literally saying "lets take out all the bad reviews because we dont agree with them" and the op is saying "lets choose which reviews we want to take, and get the average out of the reviews we picked". is metacritic perfect? no, but guess what, all games go through the same thing, all reviews are taken and average is taken from the scores, whether its mario, halo, uncharted, CoD, or games like pitfall. the same rules apply to all.

 

Yes the same rules apply, but the same reviewers aren't used. The only review sites that get tallied every time are the top ones that go out of their way to employ enough reviewers to review all the latest games. Halo 4 is getting what amounts to troll shots because a few websites are using it to garner hits.

As for your the top 10 websites in the OP. I didn't pick them so much as grabbed them from a list of top gaming websites. I didn't choose the scores and find the websites. I grabbed well respected websites and found the review scores for the list.

What I'm proposing is that a set of 10 websites be used for ALL future arrogates. That way we don't have huge divides in the quality of the reviews uses to average it out. The same top websites will always produce quality reviews with integrity. I find it a little insulting, but really not that insulting, that you would think I went out and found the best scores I could. If I wanted to list ten perfect Halo scores I could.

i ment no insult to you or anybody, and honestly i dont understand how you would be insulted. but in a way you did chose the websties because you only decided to take the top ten, why just 10? why not the top 20? top 30? plus there is a flaw in your suggestion as one of your top and "respected" sites, IGN did have some controversy regarding review scores, check this thread. reviews are flawed, we all know what but when you take all the reviews, it usually gives out a good idea of how the game is.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=149030&page=3#1

I wasn't really insulted. I just wanted to make sure you understood that I didn't cherry pick the websites. I grabbed only ten so it would be simple and easy to calculate. I'd be happy to swap websites and scores if you have a better suggestion. I personly feel that IGN is a very worthy edition to the top website list.



Player2 on 05 November 2012

We trust IGN again? This didn't last long.