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VGKing said:
man-bear-pig said:
VGKing said:
man-bear-pig said:
VGKing said:
man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:
man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:
man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:

We all know this generation began when Sony said so. So to the victor (PS3) go the spoils indeed.


Does not compute...what does this post mean?

Just what it says. The generation began in November 2006, and from then on Sony has sold around 3m more PS3s than MS has sold 360s.


That is utter bullshit. The generation started when the first console of the gen was released. And since then, the X360 has sold 2m more than the PS3. Deal with it.

Then deal with GoW selling more than Gears.


GODOWA hasn't sold more than GOW. 

Yes it has. Take a look at this comment http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4860406


Spin-offs don't count.

There are no God of War spin-offs. Only prequels lmfao.


If they're not the main series then they're spin-offs.


They ARE NOT spin-offs.

You need to choose better words. If you mean the Gears trilogy outsold the GOW trilogy then yes, you are right.

But overall as a franchise, God of War is bigger. 


If by 'bigger', you mean 'more diluted' then I agree.  Just because its had more releases doesn't mean it's bigger. That's like saying Rihanna is bigger than the Beatles because she's released more albums. The main series is what counts, and GOW has sold more than GODOWA. Therefore, it has rights to the acronym. Simples!



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pezus said:
JayWood2010 said:
pezus said:
man-bear-pig said:


Spin-offs don't count.

Are you doing this on purpose? I told you what spin-offs are already, and the PSP games are not spin-offs. But since you added that condition, I am adding the condition that Sony started this generation -> Sony gets the win


Can I ask why you all are even argueing over any of this?  What is the point in any of this?

We need to get to the bottom of this. 

i LOL hard when i read this...man bear pig is hooked... pull the line... LOL

@OP
FPS domination once again... boring...



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VGKing said:
man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:
man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:

We all know this generation began when Sony said so. So to the victor (PS3) go the spoils indeed.


Does not compute...what does this post mean?

Just what it says. The generation began in November 2006, and from then on Sony has sold around 3m more PS3s than MS has sold 360s.


That is utter bullshit. The generation started when the first console of the gen was released. And since then, the X360 has sold 2m more than the PS3. Deal with it.


PS3 has been on the market for 6 years. Xbox 360 has been on the market for 7 years.

69.1 million / 7 = 9.8 Million on average per year for XBox 360.
67.4 million / 6 = 11.2 Million on average per yaer for Playstation 3.

Simple math.

Total sales....

Nov 2005 - Nov 2006 PS3 sold a fat 0 while 360 sold millions. We count that. deal.



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pezus said:
man-bear-pig said:


If by 'bigger', you mean 'more diluted' then I agree.  Just because its had more releases doesn't mean it's bigger. That's like saying Rihanna is bigger than the Beatles because she's released more albums. The main series is what counts, and GOW has sold more than GODOWA. Therefore, it has rights to the acronym. Simples!

Or it's like saying 360 is bigger than PS3 when it has just been out for longer. Do you not see this? 360 has more years, GoW has more games. 360 is ahead, GoW is ahead. There is really no counter-argument.

Edit: Oh, and Rihanna has sold A LOT less albums than the beatles combined. So that comparison is ridiculous


None of this post makes sense.

@your edit: I didn't say rihanna has sold more albums than the Beatles...



VGKing said:
sales2099 said:


You do realize that the God of War franchise has sold more than Gears of War, right? Or are you moving the goalposts to "average sold per game"? In that case, Gears has an advantage - there are hardly any other major first-party games on the 360.


Spin-offs don't count.

The PSP games aren't spin offs. They are part of the God of War story. But hey, you wouldn't know. You got Microsofts you know what in your mouth.

If you include GOW 1-3 + the 2 PSP games thats still less sold then the 3 Gears games.

Listen, I know 360 gamers took away everything that Sony fans held dear in the glory PS2 days, but your decision privelages have been revoked the minute you backed the least selling console this generation. Sure in the PS2 days you were free to give God of War whatever acroynm you wished, but to the victor go the spoils. Gears is a better selling franchise so more people would naturally recognize Marcus before they recognize Kratos. Sorry.

Its just a matter of convincing the Sony fans that it is perfetcly within our right to steal your things as long as PS3 is last place :)

I've had enough of your childish comments. Both of you. I"m ending this right now.

God of War franchise sales = 19.91million http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=God+of+War
Gears of War franchise sales = 18.10million http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=gears+of+war

God of War came out first, God of War sold more. GOW =  God of War.

/end

lol those sales include God of War Collection (1 + 2 repackaged) and both PSP games repackaged. Going by pure game releases and not HD cash-ins, Gears sold more



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pezus said:
man-bear-pig said:


If by 'bigger', you mean 'more diluted' then I agree.  Just because its had more releases doesn't mean it's bigger. That's like saying Rihanna is bigger than the Beatles because she's released more albums. The main series is what counts, and GOW has sold more than GODOWA. Therefore, it has rights to the acronym. Simples!

Or it's like saying 360 is bigger than PS3 when it has just been out for longer. Do you not see this? 360 has more years, GoW has more games. 360 is ahead, GoW is ahead. There is really no counter-argument.

Edit: Oh, and Rihanna has sold A LOT less albums than the beatles combined. So that comparison is ridiculous

Gaming industry is unique. Music/car/movie analogies do not work. God of War is only bigger in sales if you factor sales of the HD game pack-ins, which arent new releases in themselves.

360 winning in lifetime sales and Gears has more game sales then God of War (neglecting the HD re-releases). win.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Couple things about the GoW vs Gears 'discussion.'

Firstly, no one cares. Seriously, no cares what you decide to use for your acronyms. You'll never see an Assassin's Creed fan becoming upset after seeing someone use AC as an acronym for Animal Crossing. 

Secondly GOW is almost always used in a context that leaves little room for ambiguity. Rarely will someone ever use GOW in a confusing manner. For example, if a person starts listing their favorite 360 games and they say 'GOW,' everyone would know GOW can only be Gears of War. Similarly, if someone mentions 'GOW' in a thread like this where there is no Gears of War game even on the list, then it's obviously God of War. It serves little practical value to decide a uniform rule for an acronyms since acronyms (specifically informal acronyms) are contextual by nature. The same acronym means different things in different contexts. 

Thirdly, everyone uses Gears for Gears of War. People almost never use Gow for Gears of War, so confusion is pretty rare.

Fourthy, if Gow is ever used when A.) there is no context, and B.) the person for some reason doesn't use Gears for Gears of War, then it's actually universally agreed that the default meaning of Gow is God of War. Like I said above, the semantic context of a word is important. However, what's also important is the context of the population you're discussing with. Sure, Gears of War may have sold more, but when you're on the internet, then Sony fans (and therefore, God Of War fans) are probably going to outnumber Gears fans considerably. It makes more sense to suit your language towards the majority  people who will be reading your post, not just the majority of people in general. That means on the internet (and especially VGChartz), GOW would more than likely be interpreted as God of War. However, if you're on Xbox.com where there's a great majority of Gears fans, thene GOW would probably mean Gears of War (though it's still weird to not use 'Gears' instead).



man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:
man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:

We all know this generation began when Sony said so. So to the victor (PS3) go the spoils indeed.


Does not compute...what does this post mean?

Just what it says. The generation began in November 2006, and from then on Sony has sold around 3m more PS3s than MS has sold 360s.


That is utter bullshit. The generation started when the first console of the gen was released. And since then, the X360 has sold 2m more than the PS3. Deal with it.

Good job bro. Microsoft beat out the competition...when the competition wasn't even in the market. Average yearly sales the PS3 trumps the 360. Have a nice fucking day.



Jay520 said:

Fourthy, if Gow is ever used when A.) there is no context, and B.) the person for some reason doesn't use Gears for Gears of War, then it's actually universally agreed that the default meaning of Gow is God of War. Not only does it matter what semantic context the word is used in; what also matters is the context of the population you're discussing with. Sure, Gears of War may have sold more, but when you're on the internet, then Sony fans (and therefore, God Of War fans) are probably going to outnumber Gears fans considerably. It actually makes more sense to tailer your language towards the majority o people who will be reading your post; that means on the internet (and especially VGChartz), GOW would more than likely be interpreted as God of War. However, if you're on Xbox.com where there's a great majority of Gears fans, thene GOW would probably mean Gears of War (though it's still weird to not use 'Gears' instead).


No it's not. Gears of war is a more popular franchise and therefore when you say GOW people will automaticity assume you're referring to gears of war. Higher sales = rights to the acronym. It's not rocket science.



riderz13371 said:
man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:
man-bear-pig said:
pezus said:

We all know this generation began when Sony said so. So to the victor (PS3) go the spoils indeed.


Does not compute...what does this post mean?

Just what it says. The generation began in November 2006, and from then on Sony has sold around 3m more PS3s than MS has sold 360s.


That is utter bullshit. The generation started when the first console of the gen was released. And since then, the X360 has sold 2m more than the PS3. Deal with it.

Good job bro. Microsoft beat out the competition...when the competition wasn't even in the market. Average yearly sales the PS3 trumps the 360. Have a nice fucking day.


Who cares? Total sales are what matters. X360 has sold 1.7m more than the PS3. Have a nice day.