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shanbcn on 01 November 2012

This is what Sony said last quarter.

"Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."

They are talking about revenue and not unit sales. Otherwise PS2 shipped 1.2m or more last quarter, more then double from 1st quarter. Doesnt make any sense really on this market. In what world PS2 outshipped 360 in last quarter?



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ethomaz on 01 November 2012
shanbcn said:
This is what Sony said last quarter.

"Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."

They are talking about revenue and not unit sales. Otherwise PS2 shipped 1.2m or more last quarter, more then double from 1st quarter. Doesnt make any sense really on this market. In what world PS2 outshipped 360 in last quarter?

So are you saying the Sony shipped over 5 million PS3 in the last two quarters??? Almost matching the 2011 performance (5.5m).

It's just harder to believe... It's more easy to believe PS2 shipped 1.5-2.0m in the last two quarter... down form 2.6m (2011).



benao87 on 01 November 2012

shanbcn said:
This is what Sony said last quarter.

"Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."

They are talking about revenue and not unit sales. Otherwise PS2 shipped 1.2m or more last quarter, more then double from 1st quarter.Doesnt make any sense really on this market. In what world PS2 outshipped 360 in last quarter?

To further illustrate your comment. Taken from the Consolidated Financial Results


 (Billions of yen, millions of U.S. dollars)

Second quarter ended September 30

2011
 2012
 Change in yen
 2012
Sales and operating revenue
 ¥176.0
 ¥148.2
 -15.8%
 $1,899

Operating income

 3.0
 2.3
 -23.8
 29

Edit: Wait what? This is what it says from their report:

Sales decreased 15.8% year-on-year (a 14% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 148.2 billion yen (1,899
million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the
PlayStation®3 (“PS3”) and PSP® (PlayStation Portable) (“PSP”), partially offset by the contribution of the
PlayStation®Vita (“PS Vita”) introduced in December 2011.

Edit 2: Nvm, thats last quarter, my bad.



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shanbcn on 01 November 2012
ethomaz said:
shanbcn said:
This is what Sony said last quarter.

"Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."

They are talking about revenue and not unit sales. Otherwise PS2 shipped 1.2m or more last quarter, more then double from 1st quarter. Doesnt make any sense really on this market. In what world PS2 outshipped 360 in last quarter?

So are you saying the Sony shipped over 5 million PS3 in the last two quarters??? Almost matching the 2011 performance (5.5m).

It's just harder to believe... It's more easy to believe PS2 shipped 1.5-2.0m in the last two quarter... down form 2.6m (2011).


I think Sony shipped 5.1m in last two quarters. But there will be huge decline YOY in 4th quarter if they dont release 199$ bundle for Black Friday. This year Sony has shipped 7 million and sales are 6.4m  acording to VGZ. Sony overship in 3rd quarter, so if sales are not good enough then PS3 may just ship 5-5.5m in last quarter.



Turkish on 01 November 2012
shanbcn said:
This is what Sony said last quarter.

"Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."

They are talking about revenue and not unit sales. Otherwise PS2 shipped 1.2m or more last quarter, more then double from 1st quarter. Doesnt make any sense really on this market. In what world PS2 outshipped 360 in last quarter?


Crazy right, ps2 refuses to die and even does better than current gen lol.



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postofficebuddy on 01 November 2012
ethomaz said:
shanbcn said:
This is what Sony said last quarter.

"Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."

They are talking about revenue and not unit sales. Otherwise PS2 shipped 1.2m or more last quarter, more then double from 1st quarter. Doesnt make any sense really on this market. In what world PS2 outshipped 360 in last quarter?

So are you saying the Sony shipped over 5 million PS3 in the last two quarters??? Almost matching the 2011 performance (5.5m).

It's just harder to believe... It's more easy to believe PS2 shipped 1.5-2.0m in the last two quarter... down form 2.6m (2011).


That wouldn't make any sense because Sony are only projecting 3 million PS2s for the FY. They'd probably beat that number by 1-2 million if they were already at 2 million.



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Chark on 01 November 2012
shanbcn said:
ethomaz said:
shanbcn said:
This is what Sony said last quarter.

"Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."

They are talking about revenue and not unit sales. Otherwise PS2 shipped 1.2m or more last quarter, more then double from 1st quarter. Doesnt make any sense really on this market. In what world PS2 outshipped 360 in last quarter?

So are you saying the Sony shipped over 5 million PS3 in the last two quarters??? Almost matching the 2011 performance (5.5m).

It's just harder to believe... It's more easy to believe PS2 shipped 1.5-2.0m in the last two quarter... down form 2.6m (2011).


I think Sony shipped 5.1m in last two quarters. But there will be huge decline YOY in 4th quarter if they dont release 199$ bundle for Black Friday. This year Sony has shipped 7 million and sales are 6.4m  acording to VGZ. Sony overship in 3rd quarter, so if sales are not good enough then PS3 may just ship 5-5.5m in last quarter.

There is that rumor $199 PS3 with the inFamous and Uncharted dual packs that look legit for Black Friday.



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Kresnik on 01 November 2012

Well, thanks for the armchair analysis here guys. Really interesting to read.



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Max King of the Wild on 01 November 2012
PDF said:
Max King of the Wild said:
What are the companies that carry plans for Sony's smartphone?

I have at&t and got an xpheria play through them.

edit:  I see your question already got answered.



unfortunatly I'm not going to spend 100 dollars a month fo the service plan.



leo-j on 01 November 2012

okay so it's 6.4 million between PS3 and PS2?

PS3: 63.9M

if PS2 sold 1.3 M

PS3 LTD sales would stand at 69M which is very likely..

I'd assume PS2 sold somewhere around 1.1-1.5M and PS3 sold around 5.3-4.9M

so PS3 LTD sales probably stand from 68.8M-69.2M... 360 stands at 70.0M.... very close



 

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