Nah, it relies on the assumption that the people at high levels of government are actually competent, and I've never seen anything to justify that.

Of course, that's what I would say if I were an Illuminatus.

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Are you saying Kirby is Illuminati?

*sees guy holding a Doritos chip up to his eye*

THAT'S THE SIGN OF THE ILLUMINATI!!

That's what the internet has given to mankind.

The very idea of the Illuminati is basically laughable, when you get to thinking about it. Illuminati, Freemasons, the Bilderburg Group, The Trilateral Commission, Skull and Bones...the list goes on and on...

Are they secretive? Sure. Do they involve powerful people? Absolutely.

Naturally, this leads people to believe that they are involved in some sort of anti-social, attempted world changing activities that will, eventually, lead to them ruling the world, a new world order or some such thing. However, the problem is that reality isn't that interesting.

Let's take Freemasonry. That's a big one and has been hugely assumed to be a cult that controls everything. But, as with all secret clubs, there's always someone who's willing to come out and tell all for their fifteen minutes of fame. From the lowest to the highest members, people have come out and spoken on terms of anonymity to basically say that this thing is a ritualized society that has all of the intrigue of a box of corn flakes.

What it amounts to is this:
1) If these guys are controlling the world, they're doing a piss poor job.
2) If one group was controlling the world, do all of these other groups want to control the world as well? Last I checked, there are like 25 of these organizations that people claim are controlling or manipulating everything. Which one is right?
3) Apple can't even keep their security up for a friggin' iPhone, which seems to keep ending up left in bars. What chance, exactly, is there of keeping a worldwide, multi-generational conspiracy that absolutely no one has mentioned anything about except conspiracy theorists? The more people you add to the conspiracy, the less chance it has of actually staying secret.

I think Benjamin Franklin actually said it best:
"Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."

I know all about this illuminati sh!t and i will say that everything is DEEPER than the illuminati". You will probably go crazy researching illuminati-ish type stuff because there is a lot of bullsh!t mixed in with the truth.

if you knew the FULL truth abouth this stuff, people will call you crazy because some of this stuff is kinda far out compared to the "brainwashed" mind of people today lol

i'm going to lay eveything out right now to make this whole story short. THE HUMAN RACE IS PRETTY MUCH GETTING OWNED right now. We are basically sheep(the people) and the man(the elite)behind it all uses the dog(the media) to secretly guides us to where it/he wants us to be.

The elite pretty much makes the people believe that they actually have a choice when they really dont(which is actually kinda brilliant to be honest). The Elite are people who want to imitate "god". They want to know everything that everybody is doing, like how god supposedly does. The only way they can fully do this is to chip everybody with RFID chips. There are also WAAAAY too many people in this world to be able to effectively keep track of so of course they WILL eventually LOWER THE POPULATION.

The bible claims that there will be a great deception in the end days right? well that great deception is THE BIBLE ITSELF(of course the people will never figure this 1 out though). The NIV version of the bible is corrupt and the most popular and most used bible today is the NIV version.

Here is an example..

Supposedly the bible gives off the impression that god flooded the world because of the "wickedness"(gay activity) that was going on. I think it was around that time when that guy built that big ass ship and put the animals on it so they would survive. The REAL reason why the the world was flooded was because of a contamination of the human blood. The wickedness is the "Annunaki". The Annunaki are the missing link. "Giants" and Dinosaurs are supposedly a product of the Annunaki. The Annunaki CONTROL this planet but at the same time, they do not exist on this planet anymore(for now). The Annunaki controls this planet with "Nephilim". Nephilim are basically a mixed race of human/nephilim(these are the TRUE beings we call the ELITE). They supposedly have the ability to take the image of a human and an Annunaki(being because they are a mixed species/race).The Annunaki are supposedly using the Nephilim to control this planet until they arrive again.The Annunaki's home planet is called Nibiru and that is where they are hibernating at the moment. I guess the The Annunaki cant FULLY come back to this planet until Nibiru lines up with the Earth again. The Mayans are supposedly the last people who knew when Planet Nibiru would be closest to earth again. You can take a wild guess when planet Nibiru is supposed to line up with Earth again if you would like ;)


i tried to make that as short as possible so there you go. The "illuminati" is just a surface name and people like to go crazy when they here it smh.

i know there are some people who read this and was like" yea, he is crazy" but whateverwith that though

i'm still looking into a lot of stuff

Ok so I sat down with a bag of chips and watched the entire video you posted. Some entertaining stuff, but again, that's pretty much all it is to me. I can't get past the religious superstitions of demons and dooms day and nonsense like that, being an agnostic. I'm about as open minded as they come. I believe there was more to the Kennedy assassination, I even believe that 9/11 was an inside job or at least had some insiders assisting, but the stuff in that video is far too fictional sounding and out there for me.

I do think there are definitely secret groups of men that gather, often for mal intent on the masses for their own profit, hell the Illuminati may even really exist. There certainly seems to be a lot of evidence that points to it. Where I draw the line is where the video claims that these "eeeevil demons!" are somehow possessing their minds and making them do this. I mean, where is the proof of that, other than some religion guy's superstitious? Cannot it not just be the men themselves that are doing it? Remember, even the Bible says human beings are all sinners by nature (or something of that sort). These religious people claiming that it is the work of demons from another dimension shows me their lack of willingness to hold people accountable for their actions, and downplays them as powerless, though that seems to be a trend in religion.

Since the dawn of human civilization there has always been a group of elites who held a lion's share of the wealth. Through the attainment of more wealth the elites gain more power and more control over the masses.
People go on about the top 1% elites. But it is the top 1% of the top 1% who own and control most of the wealth.
0.0001% of the population would be regarded as the illuminati aka the enlightened ones.

If you get deep into that you will see that, "iluminati = freemason = satanists".  They adore demons (Baphomet, Orus, etc), have fixation with numerology, want moral and family values to disappear, want to rule the world, want decay for everyone, and have lots of symbolism.   They already control most of the world, like USA and other major economical powers; and major industries, like the music and movie industries.    You can see lots of this symbols in many movies and music video clips, and they are trying to put them as some kind of subliminal message.     I find it worrisome that may be entering also the gaming industry.   Assassins Creed uses lots of that symbols for the good guys, DAFAQ!!!, and the bad guys are the Catholics (who are basically the ones defending most of the things those other dudes want to disappear), which makes me think that maybe this obscure organization influenced the making of the game.

They already control most of the world, but considering their rule is based on money, if someone has lots money they may not be able to influence him/her.  That is why they do not control all the world yet.   Capitalism is the weapon they use because they have lots of cash, but it can also be used against them if someone has enough.

There is lot of interesting and scary info out there if you really want to look at it.  Also I recommend, that you dont talk about this people.  It is always good to know this kind of things, but it is not good if they know you are convinced they exist.   They are "a well known secret", and they can act with so much freedom because most people dont want to recognize their existance, why? I dunno.     

The greatest trick the Devil ever created was to make people believe he doesn't exist.

You may think I am a bit "extremist" with all what I have written, but you can always do your own research about it.

I think this explanation is a bit off. Especially in case of the illuminati, the (still strong) fascination stems from the fact that in their case, it is proven that they indeed tried to secretly take over power by undercutting government, trying to place their people in key positions etc., deceiving new members about their true aims etc., and being at least partly successful at it, in just a couple of years. And it was exactly after this became public that a widespread hysteria towards secret societies came upon the population.
In fact, if you look at what's nowadays considered verified knowledge about the illuminati, it seems that it was their proven aims and methods what later became the blueprint of every conspiracy theory about secret societies.

And it's no wonder that there are so many conspiracy theories about intelligence services, secret societies etc. Because they are indeed all conspiracies by their very nature, according to the true meaning of the word "conspiracy" - which goes far beyond what the common understanding of that word nowadays is.

Well, there's a lot of truth to this, but it's only one side of the truth.
The other side is that secrets and conspiracies have always been considered necessary (think intelligence services for example), and over the course of history, useful strategies have evolved for keeping secrets secret and managing complex operations that require lots of potential traitors. There's never a 100% guarantee of course, but the risks can be minimized.
Just to name a few strategies: Extensive tests for loyalty, pyramid-like hierarchies, the "need-to-know"-principle, deception, false information, threatening secret-keepers and their relatives, making them prone to blackmailing and and and. And even when secrets become public, there are counter-strategies like diverting from the truth, attacking the credibility of the traitor, trying to ridicule people who believe him, spreading several contradictory claims etc., which ultimatively leads to people being completely confused what they should believe.

That's not to say that the illuminati are indeed trying to take over the world etc. of course. I'm only trying to point out that these often-heard "conspiracies don't work"-arguments are not as evident as they may seem on first sight. Conspiracies are extremely common, and the vast majority of them never becomes public knowledge.

Don't worry, you're not the only logical person here. Thanks for saving me from having to post the same things. However I do have some things to add.

My grandpa was a Freemason. Don't ask me questions about what went on and how high up he was because sadly he died when I was fairly young. By this Illuminati train of thought you guys think he was actually evil and taking over the world? If yes then I'll be sure to bring that fact up at thanksgiving.

Also another one of these organizations "taking over the world" I happen to be a member of. I'm not to sure if you guys also believe this but many people online who talk about the Illuminati also think Boy Scouts are contracted with the military preparing for marshal law and yada yada yada. Like CChaos said these beliefs only form because people are naturally suspicious of what they don't know/understand. I'm the highest rank a scout can be so if we were up to something I would know. Heck even Scouting has its own secret society within scouting called the Order of the Arrow but I can't expand upon that.