| DieAppleDie said: Tie ratio is misleading of course the Wii has the lowest, its fucking easy to mod |
....You can do the same on the 360, ps3 *sigh* I think it was already stated multiple times that Nintendo won this generation being the most profitable. No need to make excuses though.
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| pokoko said: I doubt it has anything to do with a measure of satisfaction and more to do with the 360 being the dominant console in North America, where games are generally cheapest, game vendors are more plentiful, and, frankly, you have a lot of overweight kids who stay indoors more often. The last one might sound silly, but I'm pretty sure that the US is the most obese country in the world on a consistent basis. Contrast the leading position of console gaming in the US with Japan, a nation with a low obesity rate and where mobile gaming reigns supreme. Honestly, all the consoles are similar enough that the satisfaction rate is probably nearly identical (if you leave out RRoD statistics). Any console that wins the core market in NA will probably have the highest tie-in ratio. Now, as for this line, "I think the 720 will be the highest selling console next gen because the people who bought X360 this gen will continue to support the Xbox brand", I really don't see any reason to assume that. The 360 had a year's jump on the other consoles, but it's going to finish with the smallest installed base and by far the lowest sales rate. Right now, even with the launch of Kinect, the 360 is seeing a more pronounced drop than the PS3, which means customer interest is falling off at a greater rate--surprising, as Kinect was expected by many, including myself, to reinvigorate the console for a much longer period. It makes you wonder how the 360 would be doing if the Kinect had never been launched. Globally, Xbox is still the weaker brand, as we see by that lower sales rate, and Microsoft has the most negative image of the three. In Microsoft's favor is their plan to unify everything under one umbrella, with "Xbox" services across a ton of devices. However, this will only be really effective if products like Windows Phone and Surface catch on at a high rate. I'm not sure they will. Honestly, as I've said before, you can't predict how a generation will go based on a previous generation. People will gravitate toward what they see as the best product, even if it means breaking brand loyalty. That being said, Microsoft, which had the weakest hardware performance despite launching the 360 first, won't be launching first this time, which could hurt the growth of the brand. I see next gen having a virtual three-way tie. It's going to be up to the console makers themselves to come up with something that can break that tie. |
I'm super late to the party on this one -- some great posts in this thread, and some very, very myopic ones.
I think Pokoko said it best, although the obesity thing probably doesn't play too much into it, but who knows.
It's very likely Xbox 720 (or whatever it's called) could win the next generation, but predicting its success on only one statistic is a little shaky. Moreover, it seems like the entire OP is begging the question.
phenom08 said:
I guess Sony really has fallen, settling for second my has the mighty fallen. |
they all fall and rise. even your mighty nintendo fell hard between 1995 and 2005.
| BenVTrigger said: @ Dodece Unfortunatly you are incorrect. Wii sold more consoles. Wii sold more 1st party software. Wii sold more 1st party periphreals and add ons. Wii generated more revenue. And Wii generated more profit. MS did very well for themselves this generation but certainly did not do as well overall as Nintend |
Interesting you wouldn't have any links to support your claims by any chance. I am unfamiliar with the figures this site is claiming, or even where I can can find them. Like I said I curse the tools on this site.
While we're making up what we think should be the best gauge of a console's success in a gen (most consoles and software sold total? Pfft, that doesn't satisfy my biases!) I suggest that we have an all-out, three-way, no-holds-barred, steel-cage match between Kratos, Mario, and Master Chief to be held on Black Friday. The winner gets crowned "the most successful console of the gen." It's every bit as arbitrary as using tie ratio instead of total consoles and software sold and a lot more fun!
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are you saying that the Xbox and PS3 have the same mod ratio?
sorry but no, the Wii is by far much more affected by piracy trhan the others
| DieAppleDie said: JayWood2010 are you saying that the Xbox and PS3 have the same mod ratio? sorry but no, the Wii is by far much more affected by piracy trhan the others |
Wii is the easiest to mod, the Xbox 360 takes second place. The PS3 is a distant 3rd.
You know the 360 might have a higher mod rate than the Wii considering its demographic.
Don't need to buy games when ps plus has already given me over 50 games, what has Xbox plus given Xbox users? Oh thats right they don't have that service....bummer :/
| think-man said: Don't need to buy games when ps plus has already given me over 50 games, what has Xbox plus given Xbox users? Oh thats right they don't have that service....bummer :/ |
Ever heard of Harms Way?
My prediction threads:
Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)
PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)
Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right
UltimateUnknown said:
You do realise that the tie in ratio is the hardware to software sale ratio, so they take BOTH into account :( |
You do realize that tie ratio is not a complete picture of hardware and software ratio? By OPs logic, the Dreamcast was more successful than the DS, and the original X-Box was the most successful system of all time.
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