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o_O.Q said:
the irony isn't lost on me that i constantly see nintendo fans saying stuff like mature games are for kids, they don't need mature games etc...
there aren't many games franchises that i know of that are more mature than gta

ot i really want some new info on this soon and i really hope they haven't stuck to the gta 4 route and dumbed down the gameplay

I can make things up too.



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pezus said:

Nintendo's "influence" is far less than Microsoft's was at the time, because Microsoft actually had a lot of money to burn. If Nintendo are not willing to do that, they aren't going to get everything. Seeing as Bayonetta 2 was hyped as something extremely major, it seems to me like Nintendo just don't want to spend that much. The thing going against Nintendo is their 3rd party history as well. Wii has a huge userbase, but that didn't guarantee huge sales, did it?


Well not really because very few played wii. You are correct. Anyway what I mean is nintendo could probably persuade some companies with words. Microsoft really needed that money because xbox didn't have any major track record at the time. Even when 360 originally launched microsoft were still putting it 'on the map'. in nintendo's case they have been here since 85 and are still here. They were skeptical of wii but after seeing how much it caught on I bet some were a lot more easy going this time around.

And like I said if rockstar weren't being swayed it is nothing a cheque would have fixed. Just like you pointed out. They are spending more money.

As for how successful it will be we will have to see what happens. The main problem with wii was it was not used as a core gaming machine by a lot of people (the fools). Wii u is using a concept which has proven successful with core gamers so this could go down better. Speculation on my part though. We will have to see.



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phenom08 said:
o_O.Q said:
the irony isn't lost on me that i constantly see nintendo fans saying stuff like mature games are for kids, they don't need mature games etc...
there aren't many games franchises that i know of that are more mature than gta

ot i really want some new info on this soon and i really hope they haven't stuck to the gta 4 route and dumbed down the gameplay

I can make things up too.

what have i made up?



pezus said:
CCFanboy said:
chocoloco said:

Rockstar always goes their own way with things. This is pure speculation though, but considering how long this game has obviously been in development it makes sense it would only be on PS3 and 360 so far. If they feel there is a market for it later when the Wii U has a bigger market share, I do not see a reason they would not port it if they feel it would make enough profit and expand the games market enough to justify a port.


I think your underestimating how strong nintendo's influence can be with this. Microsoft was desperate to push ea, activision, capcom, square enix, konami etc onto 360 and successfully pulled it off.

The thing nintendo has going for it that microsoft didn't at the time is they are a safe bet to do well considering their long success with systems. This will be on wii u. Even if it isn't confirmed in the magazine I still think it will end up on it. Nintendo are not stupid. They have a year head start and know they need this game.

Nintendo's "influence" is far less than Microsoft's was at the time, because Microsoft actually had a lot of money to burn. If Nintendo are not willing to do that, they aren't going to get everything. Seeing as Bayonetta 2 was hyped as something extremely major, it seems to me like Nintendo just don't want to spend that much. The thing going against Nintendo is their 3rd party history as well. Wii has a huge userbase, but that didn't guarantee huge sales, did it?

Because third parties were too stupid to take advantage of it. See my reply further up.



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Andrespetmonkey said:
Mr Khan said:
chocoloco said:

It is comments like this that make me question why they ever made you a mod. That said, I think between PS3, 360 and later PC there are plenty alternatives to the open minded and they probably have already capitalized on the market that actually is interested in this series with these platforms.

Whose to say Nintendo fans aren't interested, hmm? They've never had an opportunity (and no, Chinatown Wars does not count).

Either this game is on Wii U or TakeTwo/Rockstar are ignorant haters. It's a simple dichotomy.

What a ridiculous thought. The thousands of people that make up Rockstar North and Taketwo, hundreds of which grew up with Nintendo systems and still buy them today, are all "ignorant haters" on Nintendo.

Here's just one other scenario: Maybe Rockstar want to spend their time focusing on the 2 versions they're making now, which would make sense since they spend a LOT of time polishing their games. Maybe making the best game possible on these 2 plaforms is of higher priority then porting to the Wii U and PC, and they don't want to put their game in the hands of another studio. Knowing Rockstar, and the kind of money they make T2 (which translates into power), this seems like a reasonable possibility, and a lot more reasonable than the irrational hatred you're suggesting. 

When all rational explanations have been ruled out, hate is the only remaining quantity. Given the dismissive language used by Take Two higher-ups (who are the only people whose opinion really matter in this case), we can think that they're just using the same exploitative strategy that they were before. We simply need to wait for confirmation and the inevitable journalistic questioning before documenting further evidence against them.



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pezus said:
phenom08 said:

What games were to sell huge on the Wii? You make the same comments as every other Ninty hater. What was suppose to sell gangbusters on the Wii? It never got any major 3rd party support to begin with. We could say Monster Hunter which did better than its PS2 counterpart but is that a fair comparison? No just like comparing Conduit's sales to CoD on 360 is unfair. I like how comparing CoD on Wii to CoD on 360 is fair, even though CoD got popular on 360 and PS3 when the Wii didn't get it. But its not fair to compare PS2 MH to Wii MH because MH got popular on PSP. The point is the "major" 3rd party support the Wii got wasn't major at all. Just labeled major because its all Ninty got to begin with. This is why we should only compare major Wii games to major 360 games. Ofcourse thats not fair because Ninty isn't a fair comparison lol.

P.S. Its fanboys that hyped Bayonetta so nice try. The meltdowns is where the hype came from.

Then you have to ask yourself why the Wii didn't get major 3rd party support and if the same will happen again this gen once PS4/720 come out. It doesn't matter if Wii didn't get everything, publishers and devs saw what sold on the Wii and it sure as hell wasn't the same thing that was selling on PS3/360. 

I did not say Nintendo hyped it, but it was hyped as the second coming by Nintendo fans.

I already know why the Wii didn't, lack of hardware power. Didn't stop it from selling 100m though. Same may or may not happen again for PS4/720. The stragety may not work this time though. The 360 released first, 3rd parties were making games for it before Wii released. This isn't happening this time. They are releasing last and haven't exactly lite the charts on fire. PS4/720 will be slow sellers and WiiU will build a lead fast. In other words, they could risk releasing for slow selling platforms or release games for a more established platform like they did for 360, instead of waiting for the successor to the highest selling platform ever PS3. Thats why I find it funny you guys think they are going to wait for them. They didn't wait for PS3 so why for PS4?

P.S. It wasn't hyped by Ninty fans. As always you see what you want to see lol. You don't have an ounce of proof so keep trying. Take a look at twitter or the devs for Bayonetta's website. This is hyped because of all the meltdowns by Sony/MS fans lol. There's plenty of proof for that.



o_O.Q said:
phenom08 said:
o_O.Q said:
the irony isn't lost on me that i constantly see nintendo fans saying stuff like mature games are for kids, they don't need mature games etc...
there aren't many games franchises that i know of that are more mature than gta

ot i really want some new info on this soon and i really hope they haven't stuck to the gta 4 route and dumbed down the gameplay

I can make things up too.

what have i made up?

"the irony isn't lost on me that i constantly see nintendo fans saying stuff like mature games are for kids, they don't need mature games etc..."



Mr Khan said:
Barozi said:
I don't know why anyone is surprised in here.

It's obvious that they don't launch with a PC version. No 3D GTA ever did that. (Dunno how it was in the PS1 era)
The game has been in development for 5 years when it comes out, why delay it any further just to have a WiiU version at launch.
Then just because WiiU gets late ports of high quality HD games like Batman Arkham City, Mass Effect 3 and Assassin's Creed 3, these future WiiU owners fell like they're entitled to get GTA V. Be happy about those ports. You're not entitled to get anything from third parties, especially old games. But instead the bitching continues.

Also how could anyone think this is a fake ? 3 years ago maybe, but only days before we get all informations in a magazine ? Nope.

Yes they're entitled to GTAV. If the console can handle it, there's no excuse other than developer/publisher ignorance and hate

Fortunately, this proves for ever that Rockstar and/or Take Two are irrational haters and deserving of perpetual ridicule from Nintendo fans.

I know i'm not going to let this die, for one.

On the other side Rockstar thinks there's no excuse not to get a PS3 or 360 to play the game at launch if you're really THAT interested (desperate) in playing the game.

They think Nintendo only owners are ignorant for not getting their highly acclaimed game on the platforms they've decided to develop for.

 

Obviously PS3/360 owners aren't entitled to get any specific game either. It's not their or even Sony's or Microsoft's final decision.



Barozi said:
Mr Khan said:
Barozi said:
I don't know why anyone is surprised in here.

It's obvious that they don't launch with a PC version. No 3D GTA ever did that. (Dunno how it was in the PS1 era)
The game has been in development for 5 years when it comes out, why delay it any further just to have a WiiU version at launch.
Then just because WiiU gets late ports of high quality HD games like Batman Arkham City, Mass Effect 3 and Assassin's Creed 3, these future WiiU owners fell like they're entitled to get GTA V. Be happy about those ports. You're not entitled to get anything from third parties, especially old games. But instead the bitching continues.

Also how could anyone think this is a fake ? 3 years ago maybe, but only days before we get all informations in a magazine ? Nope.

Yes they're entitled to GTAV. If the console can handle it, there's no excuse other than developer/publisher ignorance and hate

Fortunately, this proves for ever that Rockstar and/or Take Two are irrational haters and deserving of perpetual ridicule from Nintendo fans.

I know i'm not going to let this die, for one.

On the other side Rockstar thinks there's no excuse not to get a PS3 or 360 to play the game at launch if you're really THAT interested (desperate) in playing the game.

They think Nintendo only owners are ignorant for not getting their highly acclaimed game on the platforms they've decided to develop for.

 

Obviously PS3/360 owners aren't entitled to get any specific game either. It's not their or even Sony's or Microsoft's final decision.

There's a difference between paying for exclusivity and deliberately ignoring one of the major platform-holders. We're not entitled to every game, but we are entitled to all multiplat games, because there's no good reason for it to not go that way.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Mr Khan said:
pezus said:
CCFanboy said:
chocoloco said:

Rockstar always goes their own way with things. This is pure speculation though, but considering how long this game has obviously been in development it makes sense it would only be on PS3 and 360 so far. If they feel there is a market for it later when the Wii U has a bigger market share, I do not see a reason they would not port it if they feel it would make enough profit and expand the games market enough to justify a port.


I think your underestimating how strong nintendo's influence can be with this. Microsoft was desperate to push ea, activision, capcom, square enix, konami etc onto 360 and successfully pulled it off.

The thing nintendo has going for it that microsoft didn't at the time is they are a safe bet to do well considering their long success with systems. This will be on wii u. Even if it isn't confirmed in the magazine I still think it will end up on it. Nintendo are not stupid. They have a year head start and know they need this game.

Nintendo's "influence" is far less than Microsoft's was at the time, because Microsoft actually had a lot of money to burn. If Nintendo are not willing to do that, they aren't going to get everything. Seeing as Bayonetta 2 was hyped as something extremely major, it seems to me like Nintendo just don't want to spend that much. The thing going against Nintendo is their 3rd party history as well. Wii has a huge userbase, but that didn't guarantee huge sales, did it?

Because third parties were too stupid to take advantage of it. See my reply further up.

It wasn't stupid for them to ignore the Wii. They simply didn't have the skills to know how to take advantage. Ninty created the Wii so they had the vision. What Ninty should have done was make the Wii Remote as much like the other controllers as much as possible or make a seperate controller like the WiiU classic controller.