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Ji99saw on 27 October 2012

Sony would sell their right kidney to have a franchise with as much prestige as Halo, well at least they still have the PS Vita... Oh yeah lol

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Proclus on 27 October 2012
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
Halo 4 will obviously be huge.

10-12M sales lifetime seem likely.

Keep dreaming. Halo Reach hasn't even reached 10mil.

Halo 4 is tracking BELOW Reach in pre-orders....common sense tells me that Halo 4 will be lucky to reach 9million lifetime.(since Xbox 720 is coming holiday '13)



An unfortunate but typical response of you, it's been clear for months now that VGC's pre-order tracking is way off base.

But time will show, in the mean time you can keep on dreaming friend.


Unfortunate but typical response? You mean an educated guess based on actual data?

I haven't seen any reports of Halo 4 breaking any pre-order records. I'm sure if it was tracking ahead of Reach, there would have been some press release.

I know VGC tracking data isn't that good, but its all we have unfortunately. So lets go by that.

Educated guess based on actual data? When you consider they're literally off by half a million for some games, yeah sure you can call that educated if you want, I'll stick to my version of common sense though, which is the VGC number supplied by actual reports.

Black Ops 2 massively undertracked, confirmed by Gamestop CEO: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/373063/black-ops-2-breaks-gamestop-pre-order-record/ - Currently at VGC: 393,906 under Modern Warfare 3.

Assassin's Creed 3 massively undertracked, confirmed by Gamestop CEO: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/25/assassins-creed-iii-pre-orders-break-ubisoft-record - Currently at VGC: ~45K above Revelations (520K launch) despite the Gamestop CEO saying it's nearly double Revelation's numbers already in reality.

So Halo 4 is conveniently enough the only one tracking accurately? And please don't reply claiming more of this  "there would have been some press release", Microsoft hasn't done that since 2007 for the Halo franchise.

Anyways, believe what you will, I know I do, we'll know soon enough mate.



Ji99saw on 27 October 2012
Proclus said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
Halo 4 will obviously be huge.

10-12M sales lifetime seem likely.

Keep dreaming. Halo Reach hasn't even reached 10mil.

Halo 4 is tracking BELOW Reach in pre-orders....common sense tells me that Halo 4 will be lucky to reach 9million lifetime.(since Xbox 720 is coming holiday '13)



An unfortunate but typical response of you, it's been clear for months now that VGC's pre-order tracking is way off base.

But time will show, in the mean time you can keep on dreaming friend.


Unfortunate but typical response? You mean an educated guess based on actual data?

I haven't seen any reports of Halo 4 breaking any pre-order records. I'm sure if it was tracking ahead of Reach, there would have been some press release.

I know VGC tracking data isn't that good, but its all we have unfortunately. So lets go by that.

Educated guess based on actual data? When you consider they're literally off by half a million for some games, yeah sure you can call that educated if you want, I'll stick to my version of common sense though, which is the VGC number supplied by actual reports.

Black Ops 2 massively undertracked, confirmed by Gamestop CEO: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/373063/black-ops-2-breaks-gamestop-pre-order-record/ - Currently at VGC: 393,906 under Modern Warfare 3.

Assassin's Creed 3 massively undertracked, confirmed by Gamestop CEO: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/25/assassins-creed-iii-pre-orders-break-ubisoft-record - Currently at VGC: ~45K above Revelations (520K launch) despite the Gamestop CEO saying it's nearly double Revelation's numbers already in reality.

So Halo 4 is conveniently enough the only one tracking accurately? And please don't reply claiming more of this  "there would have been some press release", Microsoft hasn't done that since 2007 for the Halo franchise.

Anyways, believe what you will, I know I do, we'll know soon enough mate.

Reasoning does not work for that guy



Without order nothing can exist - without chaos nothing can evolve.

"I don't debate, I just give you that work"- Ji99saw

ToraReaper on 27 October 2012

So hyped for Halo 4, good to hear it's a success before its release (though it was predictable it would happen).



VGKing on 27 October 2012
Proclus said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
Halo 4 will obviously be huge.

10-12M sales lifetime seem likely.

Keep dreaming. Halo Reach hasn't even reached 10mil.

Halo 4 is tracking BELOW Reach in pre-orders....common sense tells me that Halo 4 will be lucky to reach 9million lifetime.(since Xbox 720 is coming holiday '13)



An unfortunate but typical response of you, it's been clear for months now that VGC's pre-order tracking is way off base.

But time will show, in the mean time you can keep on dreaming friend.


Unfortunate but typical response? You mean an educated guess based on actual data?

I haven't seen any reports of Halo 4 breaking any pre-order records. I'm sure if it was tracking ahead of Reach, there would have been some press release.

I know VGC tracking data isn't that good, but its all we have unfortunately. So lets go by that.

Educated guess based on actual data? When you consider they're literally off by half a million for some games, yeah sure you can call that educated if you want, I'll stick to my version of common sense though, which is the VGC number supplied by actual reports.

Black Ops 2 massively undertracked, confirmed by Gamestop CEO: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/373063/black-ops-2-breaks-gamestop-pre-order-record/ - Currently at VGC: 393,906 under Modern Warfare 3.

Assassin's Creed 3 massively undertracked, confirmed by Gamestop CEO: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/25/assassins-creed-iii-pre-orders-break-ubisoft-record - Currently at VGC: ~45K above Revelations (520K launch) despite the Gamestop CEO saying it's nearly double Revelation's numbers already in reality.

So Halo 4 is conveniently enough the only one tracking accurately? And please don't reply claiming more of this  "there would have been some press release", Microsoft hasn't done that since 2007 for the Halo franchise.

Anyways, believe what you will, I know I do, we'll know soon enough mate.


Never said Halo 4 pre-order data is accurate. Don't put words in my mouth.

However VgChartz is the only website to provide actual numbers, so its all I can go by for now. Sorry. 



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1337 Gamer on 27 October 2012

damn this thread is full of flame bait... Calm down people. Its just video games sales!



Long Live SHIO!

Squilliam on 27 October 2012

According to a study conducted by Nielsen, Halo 4 is the most anticipated game for the Xbox 360, while Black Ops II holds the second spot on the 360 and the first spot on the PS3's list. The most anticipated Wii game is Just Dance 4.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/07/23/halo-4-and-black-ops-ii-among-the-most-anticipated-games-of-the-year.aspx

Halo 4 has even better single platform potential because dual system owners who may get COD on the PS3 will have to get this one on the 360.



Tease.

PureDante on 27 October 2012

I don't know if I'm more excited to the play the game or see the first week #'s



All of this, of course, is just my opinion.

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toadslayer72 on 27 October 2012
PureDante said:
I don't know if I'm more excited to the play the game or see the first week #'s


That's actually a pretty good point. It's nice because you know MS is going to be telling us just how much Halo sells too.



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Argh_College on 28 October 2012

Halo allways bring the hate...

You know our game is the best when you see this hate, just proves that no other game in any other system compares to what Halo does, sells or is.

Excluding Nintendo that has Zelda wich is amzing, on Ps Brand nothing comes even close to Halo, neither in Sales, popularity or Quality and 343 will prove this once again.

Halo 4 - Game of the year!