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VGKing on 27 October 2012
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Proclus said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
VGKing said:
Proclus said:
Halo 4 will obviously be huge.

10-12M sales lifetime seem likely.

Keep dreaming. Halo Reach hasn't even reached 10mil.

Halo 4 is tracking BELOW Reach in pre-orders....common sense tells me that Halo 4 will be lucky to reach 9million lifetime.(since Xbox 720 is coming holiday '13)



An unfortunate but typical response of you, it's been clear for months now that VGC's pre-order tracking is way off base.

But time will show, in the mean time you can keep on dreaming friend.


Unfortunate but typical response? You mean an educated guess based on actual data?

I haven't seen any reports of Halo 4 breaking any pre-order records. I'm sure if it was tracking ahead of Reach, there would have been some press release.

I know VGC tracking data isn't that good, but its all we have unfortunately. So lets go by that.

Educated guess based on actual data? When you consider they're literally off by half a million for some games, yeah sure you can call that educated if you want, I'll stick to my version of common sense though, which is the VGC number supplied by actual reports.

Black Ops 2 massively undertracked, confirmed by Gamestop CEO: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/373063/black-ops-2-breaks-gamestop-pre-order-record/ - Currently at VGC: 393,906 under Modern Warfare 3.

Assassin's Creed 3 massively undertracked, confirmed by Gamestop CEO: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/25/assassins-creed-iii-pre-orders-break-ubisoft-record - Currently at VGC: ~45K above Revelations (520K launch) despite the Gamestop CEO saying it's nearly double Revelation's numbers already in reality.

So Halo 4 is conveniently enough the only one tracking accurately? And please don't reply claiming more of this  "there would have been some press release", Microsoft hasn't done that since 2007 for the Halo franchise.

Anyways, believe what you will, I know I do, we'll know soon enough mate.


Never said Halo 4 pre-order data is accurate. Don't put words in my mouth.

However VgChartz is the only website to provide actual numbers, so its all I can go by for now. Sorry.