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badgenome said:
mjk45 said:

Yes the law is the law , but you don't try to sequester it for your own ends , you use the legal system , one just has to look at the timing of this latest episode too see this is just a political stunt and I love the piece about the law is the law is the law and that's why people care , are these the same people who said they didn't care about Watergate.

You lost me there. Who doesn't care about Watergate? And who is trying to circumvent the legal system? There are questions about Obama's place of birth because of the strangely persistent references here and there to him being "Kenyan born", including one from his own literary agent. Talking about it, whether in terms of wild eyed Manchurian candidate conspiracy theories or just wondering what the hell is going on, is not "sequestering the law for your own ends".

But yeah, of course it's a political stunt. Or, more to the point, a publicity stunt. It's fucking Donald Trump, after all. Shameless self promotion and looking like an ass is his bread and butter.

the mention of Watergate is in reference to many people who saw that as nothing more than politics not worth the fuss , now we have this rumor campaign I wonder if those same people feel the same way about this , as to sequester . I should have used the word use , and that is what he is doing using that law for his own publicity , if he was sincere and had evidence rather than rumor and innuendo and it really meant a damn to him he should instigate proceedings , this is an old subject  and because he is the President of the USA rumor will persist , we have seen it before and will see it in the future all the proof in the world won't change some peoples suspicions , rather than talking about Obama's policies and whether they are good bad or indifferent and the same for Romney we again get this  , I myself  feel if i was Romney  i would be disappointed and rather they talked about the subject at hand ,  who  will make the better President and why.



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mjk45 said:

the mention of Watergate is in reference to many people who saw that as nothing more than politics not worth the fuss , now we have this rumor campaign I wonder if those same people feel the same way about this , as to sequester . I should have used the word use , and that is what he is doing using that law for his own publicity , if he was sincere and had evidence rather than rumor and innuendo and it really meant a damn to him he should instigate proceedings , this is an old subject  and because he is the President of the USA rumor will persist , we have seen it before and will see it in the future all the proof in the world won't change some peoples suspicions , rather than talking about Obama's policies and whether they are good bad or indifferent and the same for Romney we again get this  , I myself  feel if i was Romney  i would be disappointed and rather they talked about the subject at hand ,  who  will make the better President and why.

Yeah, I agree. I mean, I find it odd how many old articles and things reference him as being Kenyan born, and this is something that far predates birtherism - which didn't rear its ugly head until the Democratic primary in 2008 - but it's all pretty boring. People who think Obama is a secret furriner won't ever be convinced otherwise and people who think it wouldn't matter even if he were will never change their minds, either, and we'll probably never know the origin of all this stuff anyway. Maybe it really was just some kind of accidental fabrication on the part of his publicist that took on a life of its own. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's hardly the least plausible scenario being tossed around. It's a minor curiosity at best, and a pretty stupid distraction. Then again, when you are a president with a terrible record and a candidate who is indistinguishible from the president on many important issues, I'm not so sure they don't generally welcome stupid distractions.

But you're probably right that Romney doesn't want this particular one. He's slightly ahead, and this has the potential to burn him.



Is that it? Is that the big announcement? A desire to dig for more skeletons with a $5 million shovel is all Trump can come up with?



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xLeftyx said:
Viper1 said:
Obama didn't help himself with the birth certificate they released. It's a pdf file with multiple, and oddly arranged, layers.

I tried to duplicate how you could get a scanned file in pdf to do that and couldn't. I had to photoshop a document together to get the same results.

Whether it's a real birth certificate or not, I can't say. But for those of us that actually downloaded it and looked at it, we're baffled at the damn thing. Ended up raising more questions than it answered.

Here is the article written by Snopes regarding the nature of Obama's birth certificate's authenticity.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

I'm not going to say an Adobe expert is wrong but there were a lot of us that tried to recrete the layering circumstances and couldn't do it.  

Unless the BC was very worn down (which we can see it is not) or the white house used the oldest OCR tech they could find (doubtful), I dont' see how you can recreate those layers.    People tried.  I tried.  

But the real question is, why in the world did they do OCR and PDF on it to begin with?   Something wrong with a regular scanner and a jpg?   You use OCR when you need to archive text from a non-digital source.   And you use PDF's when you need user interactivity with the document.  Neither of which make sense you simply need to scan and display a BC online.

Don't get me wrong.  I'm not trying to claim it as proof of fraud at all.   I just feel it's a baffling way to go about answering the doubters.  You never give them more questions in the process.  It only makes things look more suspicious.



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kitler53 said:

no, trump he stuck taxpayers with the debt.   unles trump releases every tax document, bank statement, credit card bill, investment record, bankrupty legal document for himself, each of his family members, and every company he's ever been a part of since at least 1991 when he first filed for bankruptcy trump is ripping me off with his bad investment choices.  i made the ridiculous accusation... the burden of proof is his.

Well, it is clear you don't understand how bankruptcy works, so it isn't worth it to continue arguing over this.



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Obama missed the deadline




And trump was such a sport given obama 12 hours extra



because of some kinda small hurricane.. it's not like obama had better things to do..



 

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NiKKoM said:

Obama missed the deadline




And trump was such a sport given obama 12 hours extra



because of some kinda small hurricane.. it's not like obama had better things to do..


If Trump really can just throw away 5 million dollars like that, you would think that he would blow some money on a decent rug and not have that horrible hairsprayed combover.



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