recent history has told us that halo and cod is always neck and neck in north america, so something is up because black ops 2 on ps3 should be near halo

21. God of War: Ascension (PS3) - 21 - 4,818 - 62,915

22. WWE '13 (PS3) - 2 - 11,584 - 59,826

23. Far Cry 3 (PS3) - 7 - 2,149 - 51,285

24. Assassin's Creed (PSV) - N/A - 7,982 - 50,244

25. Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time (PS3) - 16 - 1,284 - 48,601

26. Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6: Patriots (X360) - N/A - 1,507 - 48,578

27. The Last of Us (PS3) - N/A - 1,821 - 48,556

28. The Last Guardian (PS3) - N/A - 99 - 47,675

29. Aliens: Colonial Marines (PS3) - 17 - 3,253 - 46,950

30. XCOM (PC) - N/A - 2,241 - 46,538

31. StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm (PC) - N/A - 1,309 - 45,712

32. New Super Mario Bros. U (WiiU) - 5 - 7,739 - 40,730

33. PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale (PS3) - 5 - 3,591 - 39,017

34. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (PC) - 4 - 4,204 - 36,742

35. Zone of the Enders HD Collection (PS3) - N/A - 8,803 - 36,137

36. Who Wants to be a Millionaire: 1st Edition (Wii) - N/A - 310 - 36,034

37. Paper Mario: Sticker Star (3DS) - 4 - 3,802 - 31,692

38. LittleBigPlanet Karting (PS3) - 3 - 3,431 - 31,486

39. Metro: Last Light (X360) - N/A - 782 - 31,387

40. Prey 2 (X360) - N/A - 254 - 29,381

41. Heavy Fire: Afghanistan (X360) - 11 - 58 - 26,868

42. The Deepak Chopra Project (X360) - N/A - 194 - 26,049

43. Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6: Patriots (PS3) - N/A - 236 - 25,252

44. Ninokuni: Shiroki Seihai no Joou (PS3) - 14 - 1,732 - 23,713

45. Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Wii) - 5 - 3,303 - 23,409

46. Anarchy Reigns (PS3) - 24 - 291 - 23,095

47. Grand Theft Auto V (X360) - N/A - 437 - 22,899

48. Anarchy Reigns (X360) - 24 - 606 - 22,684

49. BioShock Infinite (PC) - 19 - 610 - 22,369

50. Tomb Raider (X360) - 11 - 2,400 - 21,985

51. Medal of Honor: Warfighter (PC) - 1 - 3,762 - 21,921

52. Ragnarok Odyssey (PSV) - 2 - 2,835 - 21,624

53. The Smurfs (Wii) - N/A - 38 - 21,221

54. Metro: Last Light (PS3) - N/A - 400 - 21,072

55. Prey 2 (PS3) - N/A - 295 - 21,016

56. Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin (3DS) - N/A - 4,058 - 21,013

57. Dead Space 3 (X360) - N/A - 2,562 - 20,941

58. Need for Speed: Most Wanted (a Criterion Game) (PS3) - 2 - 6,064 - 20,241

59. Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (PS3) - 18 - 1,575 - 20,112

60. NCIS 3D (3DS) - N/A - 826 - 19,873

61. Call of Duty Black Ops: Declassified (PSV) - 11 - 3,619 - 18,836

62. Crysis 3 (X360) - 24 - 1,173 - 18,713

63. Zone of the Enders HD Collection (X360) - N/A - 3,627 - 18,438

64. Far Cry 3 (PC) - 7 - 768 - 18,433

65. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist (X360) - 24 - 1,588 - 18,284

66. Aliens: Colonial Marines (PC) - 17 - 1,598 - 17,767

67. Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (3DS) - N/A - 3,395 - 17,479

68. Overstrike (PS3) - N/A - 36 - 16,395

69. Dead Space 3 (PS3) - N/A - 1,908 - 16,351

70. Beyond: Two Souls (PS3) - N/A - 1,016 - 16,202

71. Overstrike (X360) - N/A - 36 - 16,077

72. Grand Theft Auto V (PS3) - N/A - 702 - 15,937

73. ZombiU (WiiU) - 11 - 2,617 - 14,794

74. Silent Hill: Book of Memories (PSV) - 11 - 1,560 - 14,469

75. Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (X360) - 5 - 1,314 - 14,423

Source: VGChartz

yes like i said, black ops looks undertracked.

and what is recent history and "always"? there is only 1 halo game you can maybe compare with cod of the same year and this is reach and even then, both had different releases, cod in holiday season and halo pre-holiday season so even these numbers are not really comparable.

btw i just checked the numbers, in 2010, halo reach had ~1,200,000 preorders 3 weeks before release and the ps3 cod had ~800k preorders 4 weeks before release so there was also an almost 400k gap with same time before release.

Halo: Reach (X360) Microsoft, Shooter

3

166,818

1,193,162

Call of Duty: Black Ops (PS3) Activision, Shooter

4

55,702

816,721

if you have still a theory i would like to hear it.

It's like you never read any of the pre-order charts threads of the last couple of weeks....

Persona 4 numbers must be wrong. It can't be selling this much.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4799481

He's also said, on many occassions, that he only knows Gamestop numbers which are about 80% (?) of pre-orders, he reckons.  There's still other sources out there.

He can say with certainty if numbers are undertracked because if he has access to Gamestop figures and they're more than what we have here, then it's obvious.  It's less certain for him to call something overtracked as he doesn't have access to everything.

The pre-orders shot up with the limited edition was available.  So depending how many of those gets shipped I'd imagine will influence how well the game does in pre-orders.

crissindahouse said: 007BondAgent said: recent history has told us that halo and cod is always neck and neck in north america, so something is up because black ops 2 on ps3 should be near halo yes like i said, black ops looks undertracked. and what is recent history and "always"? there is only 1 halo game you can maybe compare with cod of the same year and this is reach and even then, both had different releases, cod in holiday season and halo pre-holiday season so even these numbers are not really comparable. btw i just checked the numbers, in 2010, halo reach had ~1,200,000 preorders 3 weeks before release and the ps3 cod had ~800k preorders 4 weeks before release so there was also an almost 400k gap with same time before release. Halo: Reach (X360) Microsoft, Shooter 3 166,818 1,193,162 Call of Duty: Black Ops (PS3) Activision, Shooter 4 55,702 816,721 if you have still a theory i would like to hear it.

Halo reach did 2.3m opening week while black ops on ps3 did 2m, plus halo isn't competing with cod, so modern warfare 3 on ps3 did 2.2m on ps3, meaning every cod is improving in north america, plus have you seen how huge cod opens on the 360 in north america? the 360 version of black ops 2 should be a clear 500k ahead.

007BondAgent said: crissindahouse said: 007BondAgent said: recent history has told us that halo and cod is always neck and neck in north america, so something is up because black ops 2 on ps3 should be near halo yes like i said, black ops looks undertracked. and what is recent history and "always"? there is only 1 halo game you can maybe compare with cod of the same year and this is reach and even then, both had different releases, cod in holiday season and halo pre-holiday season so even these numbers are not really comparable. btw i just checked the numbers, in 2010, halo reach had ~1,200,000 preorders 3 weeks before release and the ps3 cod had ~800k preorders 4 weeks before release so there was also an almost 400k gap with same time before release. Halo: Reach (X360) Microsoft, Shooter 3 166,818 1,193,162 Call of Duty: Black Ops (PS3) Activision, Shooter 4 55,702 816,721 if you have still a theory i would like to hear it. Halo reach did 2.3m opening week while black ops on ps3 did 2m, plus halo isn't competing with cod, so modern warfare 3 on ps3 did 2.2m on ps3, meaning every cod is improving in north america, plus have you seen how huge cod opens on the 360 in north america? the 360 version of black ops 2 should be a clear 500k ahead.

ok and why did i say to you that halo reach didn't release in holiday season but halo 4 does?

and what exactly does this change when i said cod looks undertracked and not halo overtracked? did i ever say cod won't sell as much as halo or anything? why is this theory not more logical for you?

it's funny, you said cod improved every year, then you see cod preorders here are even lower as in 2010 and instead of you thinking about too low cod preorder numbers you think halo has to be overtracked. that makes 0 sense. everything you said should let you think cod is undertracked.

btw if you think halo is so much overtracked, can you say me what you believe halo 4 will sell first week? reach sold 2.3 million right? preorder numbers of halo 4 are lower as for reach here on vgc and if you think those lower numbers are even overtracked, what do you expect for halo 4 first week? 1.4 million? or mabye even less?

As usual, thanks for posting this Criss, I appreciate it!

Where to begin, hmm.  

Decent climb for New Super Mario Bros Wii-U!

God of War Ascension seems slow but has some really nice numbers this far from release, I'm impressed.  The Last of Us is also pretty slow (but I guess there's no news about it recently).  Nice to see Need for Speed finally charting as well!  I reckon it's pretty severely undertracked.

Pretty poor showings from LittleBigPlanet & Playstation All-Stars.  Bit of a shame.

Fairly decent week for AC3: Liberation.  Looks like it's gonna end around 60k at launch, which is nice but not stellar.  Decent for Ragnarok Odyssey too, seems like it'll end on 25k-ish, and some numbers for Silent Hill: Book of Memories!  I wonder if it's gonna chart next week.

Overstrike numbers just seem shoe-horned in (36 for each version this week, hmm...) and I wonder who the 99 people are who are pre-ordering Last Guardian every week, lol.