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Err, while I'm not going to pretend it's doing anything better than piss-poor right now, it'll probably will sell above 20M.

I'd say between 37M-45M, not the worst ever but still a flop in my opinion.



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not a chance for it of doing less than that....but it wont go much beyond



leo-j said:
kowenicki said:
leo-j said:
kowenicki said:
VGKing said:
kowenicki said:
AaronSOLDIER said:
I remember when people said this about PS3 lol


What's your prediction?


Whats YOUR prediction? NVM. We already know.

I myself think Vita was rushed to market in order to compete with the 3DS(which its failing to do at the moment). Sony should have launched it this holiday. That way they would have guaranteed to start off with a healthy install base so you know....games sell.


My, my, you're aggressive today aren't you.

 

My prediction is already in the thread. Open your eyes.


I don't get how you're allowed to post on these forums.. without being warned on a consistent basis.. Like really? OPEN YOUR EYES.. do you really have to be such an offensive poster? 


Considering in a previous post today he told me to grow up I'd say he is reaping as he sows.  But it's not really any of your business Leo. 


well then hunny, you should tell him to open his eyes, or whatever other aggresive remarks you have for him or any other poster through a private message.. Because as I'm sure you have seen.. not many people enjoy reading through those remarks towards other posters.. and if he started the flaming.. then report him.. and be done with it.. instead of continuing it..

Or just wait till he gets banned yet again...



Galaki said:
It's currently selling marginally less than the Wii, so, it'll eventually sell 90M. Just like the Wii.

I have such a man-crush on Galaki.

AaronSOLDIER said:
I remember when people said this about PS3 lol

Only problem is the Vita doesn't have a companion systems like the PS3 had in the 360.  If the PS3 benefited tremendously from 3rd party 360 ports in the early goings.  The Vita doesn't have that luxury, with 3DS having sown up exclusives.



BTW, I reserve the right to change my predictions after this holiday season.  Behind the Wii U, the Vita is the item I'm keeping a close eye on to see how it performs.  It's now or never.


And the fact that we're even having this conversation blows my mind.  Not even a year ago, who would've thought!? 



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Kenology said:
Galaki said:
It's currently selling marginally less than the Wii, so, it'll eventually sell 90M. Just like the Wii.

I have such a man-crush on Galaki.

AaronSOLDIER said:
I remember when people said this about PS3 lol

Only problem is the Vita doesn't have a companion systems like the PS3 had in the 360.  If the PS3 benefited tremendously from 3rd party 360 ports in the early goings.  The Vita doesn't have that luxury, with 3DS having sown up exclusives.

Wouldn't Vita's companion be the PS3? I think you mean competitor with similar specs, but the Vita can have ports from the 3DS easily so I'm not sure how you are making this connection to sales. Would the PS3 have sold less if there wasn't a 360? I highly doubt that. When you say this do you mean it allowed the PS3 to have a larger selection of games than it otherwise would have had if their only competing system was the Wii? Ok, but developers stil had to code for PS3 regardless of it being made on 360 first and I don't believe developers would have avoided the PS3 if the 360 wasn't there. The Vita has a lot of games and among those there are ports from other systems, though I will hand it to you that it lacks ports from handheld games. If the PS3 ports don't count though I'm not sure if the situation you describe has anythinv to do with it.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Chark said:
Kenology said:
Galaki said:
It's currently selling marginally less than the Wii, so, it'll eventually sell 90M. Just like the Wii.

I have such a man-crush on Galaki.

AaronSOLDIER said:
I remember when people said this about PS3 lol

Only problem is the Vita doesn't have a companion systems like the PS3 had in the 360.  If the PS3 benefited tremendously from 3rd party 360 ports in the early goings.  The Vita doesn't have that luxury, with 3DS having sown up exclusives.

Wouldn't Vita's companion be the PS3? I think you mean competitor with similar specs, but the Vita can have ports from the 3DS easily so I'm not sure how you are making this connection to sales. Would the PS3 have sold less if there wasn't a 360? I highly doubt that. When you say this do you mean it allowed the PS3 to have a larger selection of games than it otherwise would have had if their only competing system was the Wii? Ok, but developers stil had to code for PS3 regardless of it being made on 360 first and I don't believe developers would have avoided the PS3 if the 360 wasn't there. The Vita has a lot of games and among those there are ports from other systems, though I will hand it to you that it lacks ports from handheld games. If the PS3 ports don't count though I'm not sure if the situation you describe has anythinv to do with it.

Vita won't have ports of 3DS games though.  Or at least not the games that matter, so it won't have that PS360-esque symbiotic relationship with the 3DS.  Good point about the PS3 being the Vita's companion, but that works out bad for the Vita, not good.  If all Vita is destined to be is a mini-PS3, then it'll continue to fail.



Kenology said:
Chark said:
Kenology said:
Galaki said:
It's currently selling marginally less than the Wii, so, it'll eventually sell 90M. Just like the Wii.

I have such a man-crush on Galaki.

AaronSOLDIER said:
I remember when people said this about PS3 lol

Only problem is the Vita doesn't have a companion systems like the PS3 had in the 360.  If the PS3 benefited tremendously from 3rd party 360 ports in the early goings.  The Vita doesn't have that luxury, with 3DS having sown up exclusives.

Wouldn't Vita's companion be the PS3? I think you mean competitor with similar specs, but the Vita can have ports from the 3DS easily so I'm not sure how you are making this connection to sales. Would the PS3 have sold less if there wasn't a 360? I highly doubt that. When you say this do you mean it allowed the PS3 to have a larger selection of games than it otherwise would have had if their only competing system was the Wii? Ok, but developers stil had to code for PS3 regardless of it being made on 360 first and I don't believe developers would have avoided the PS3 if the 360 wasn't there. The Vita has a lot of games and among those there are ports from other systems, though I will hand it to you that it lacks ports from handheld games. If the PS3 ports don't count though I'm not sure if the situation you describe has anythinv to do with it.

Vita won't have ports of 3DS games though.  Or at least not the games that matter, so it won't have that PS360-esque symbiotic relationship with the 3DS.  Good point about the PS3 being the Vita's companion, but that works out bad for the Vita, not good.  If all Vita is destined to be is a mini-PS3, then it'll continue to fail.


I find that to be false logic, there is no basis to disregard a system as a capable handheld version of a console. Personally it would be amazing if the Vita was truly a handheld PS3, capable of playing all the games PS3 can day one digitally from the PS Store. Obviously there are hardware complications to that along with code and a less than complete digital library. The Vita is not that but has an advantage of multiplatform games. To say that the Vita is at a disadvantage for this almost negates any argument you have on the benefit of two systems with relatively the same power. The PS3 is selling well for itself, to allign the Vita with multiplatform titles is a pro not a con, but that's besides the point as the handheld is unique, has exclusive games, and features that the PS3 does not or any other dedicated handheld system.

As for 3DS ports, yes if big name titles are exclusive to 3DS the Vita will lose out, but there are big name exclusive titles for the Vita with Assasins Creed 3 Liberation and Call of Duty Black Ops 2 Declassified. The ones on the 3DS are not the only ones that matter and unless I'm wrong some of those 3DS exclusives could make it onto the Vita as it would be easier to up port a 3DS game than downport a Vita game, the Vita stands at an advantage. That goes both ways as welll, the 3DS stands as much to lose by not having that symbiotic relationship as the Vita does, wouldn't it? I know it already has a larger install base but it didn't even have a symbiotic relationship in its first year and once both systems have a decent install base how does your symbiotic relationship theory hold up?

The real issue is that the Vita is suffering from a troubled economy, lack of consumer awareness, and an overwhelming consumer pack mentality as a result of the mainstream internet communication boom with strong competitors. Sony has lost the favor of the markets and has to fight consumer opinion backlash which makes it very difficult to introduce new products. The "sony hate" that people talk about is related to this and its realization was made apparent from the hacking groups that targeted the company. The consumer atmosphere is very against buying Sony products and with more people advocating against Sony than ever before they stand at a difficult point of time for the company. Oh and the delayed/split launch and price drop of the 3DS affected the Vita as well.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Kenology said:
Chark said:

but the Vita can have ports from the 3DS easily

Vita won't have ports of 3DS games though.  Or at least not the games that matter

Simple solution. Sony'll just make a second screen addon.



I just have to say this is by far the worst prediction I've even seen. And based on what? Current sales? Without a price cut and a true holiday, (if you think December in japan is a true holiday you need to do some research.) I feel that in the end the vita will surprise many of you, 60 + is my guess of what i can see right now. I have faith, mostly in Sony's previous numbers, 100 million PS1's 140 PS2's, 64 million PS3's, 75 million PSP's. Sony has and excellent track record, better than both Nintendo and MS.