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Not sure why you listed so many results in first batch - they are all from same user, not sure what that proves, haven't you noticed? At least I had courtesy to provide you with different users ;)

Also for your statement GPU score is 5700-5800 at stock - again, I gave you 4 wildly different processors with stock 4850, all giving GPU score in the same area (7300-7500) - so I have no idea where you pulled that off...

And once again - embedded in this case means GPU and 1GB of GDDR5 memory are on a single package (not die, I made an error in previous post) - memory bus is still 128bits, with bandwith of 51.2GB/s, exactly the same as 6750m (600/800) - so, oh dear, no there is no benefits when it comes to speed.

Now we can go on like this forever, but fact is I really don't care that much - if rumour is true, e6760 is 480:24:8 Turks based GPU with customization, and I would assume customization includes putting (embedding) 32MB of eDRAM on package too. I already made in some other post comparison step by step (shader/TMU/ROP) with Xenos, and at stock speed its "power" is 3x for shaders, 1.8 for TMU, and 1.2 for ROP. If its base clock is higher that stock e6760, 800+ Mhz like someone stated, than that "power" translates to 4x shader, 2.4x TMU, 1.6x ROP....there, you happy? ;)

I recall people calling the PS2 era consoles, the 128 bit consoles.

I remember I used to refer to the current gen, the upcoming 256 bit consoles back in the time lol.

So is this actually true and confirmed by now or do we still argue about it being a fake etc?

I just send an email to AMD so lets see if and what they tell me.

What difference does it make how many different users you post? All I showed is that with a higher overclock you get higher scores.

Anyways, no explanation for the odd speeds listes? No? What a surprise.

As for the 5700-5800, look at the scores on the bottom end of the list.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3151370

See? Slightly overclocked, 6184 total score. GPU score? 5751. Just a few percent above the 5870 of the e6760.

And embedded means the solution embedded directly onto the motherboard as opposed to a graphics card going into an expansion slot. It's not a very difficult concept to grasp I would think.

Ninty will use GPU? I always knew they were communists!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosudarstvennoye_Politicheskoye_Upravlenie

Sorry, can't and won't discuss with you anymore on scores of 4850 vs e6760 - it just has no point, 3DMark database is big enough to check stock 4850 against every and any CPU you like and find its GPU score, and than do the same for 6570/6650m/6750m - if you want to keep insisting that it's not the same GPU and that results I have shown you are not at stock speeds, so be it, I honestly couldn't care less anymore.

As for embedded...LOL...you do know that test system for that "miraculous" P score of 5870 included GA-MA770T-UD3P...regular AM3+ motherboard..not sure how can you put e6760 into that board...so I guess they had to use this: http://www.amd.com/us/products/embedded/graphics-processors/Pages/radeon-e6760-pci.aspx which has "Features and performance of AMD Radeon™ E6760 embedded discrete GPU"....oh snap, what have I done, now you gonna say that cause it was test with PCI Express card, true "embedded" solution has even more performance...because it's "embedded", naturally...

Anyway, like I said couldn't care less anymore, bottom line is if they can produce visuals of that Zelda tech demo I'm fine (though that demo has lot of flaws, to be honest). Crappy part for me is that I really like TP art style, and they said they'll stick to SS style, so for me that's way bigger downer than whether or not WiiU's GPU is less or equal to 4850.

A few people started calling it the 128 bit era simply because it came after the "32/64" bit era and the DreamCast had a 128 bit GPU.  Even though the CPU was just 32 bits.   Sega even used 128 bit in their marketing material for a while.   The PS2 had a 64 bit CPU, like the N64.

But the problem is that bit depth labeled generations were always based on the CPU bit depth, not GPU.  

hmmm the update stuff on gaf is interesting for sure, but I think it's not too far from the truth, Nintendo is known for heavily customizing efficient hardware to push more potential as a gaming machine, if it's really a highly customized e6760, it's actually good news, that's for sure. included new email stuff in OP.

Just answer me this. Do you trully believe a stock 4850 can outperform a stock 4850 with a faster cpu? Or a heavily overclocked 4850. When you started debating you even said the 4850 scores were in the 9500+ department... What happened to that?

I've showed you numerous scores that prove a stock 4850 won't do 7500+ with a 620. I've also showed you 3dmark doesn't always record correct speeds (it even records incorrect speeds most of the time). But if you wanna believe you're right, fine. Just don't come spouting your nonsense here unless you can back them up with real facts.... Which you obviously can't.

And I never said the e6760 doesn't have the same chip as the 6570 or 6750m btw. I just said it clearly performs a lot better. As evident by it's Vantage score. Whether that's because of architectural enhancements or not doesn't really matter.

Seeing as Vantage the only benchmark result we have of the e6760 and how that's far higher than the 6570 I'll compare that score to other cards only. I won't look at weaker cards and say "That's what it's capable off".

You're absolutely right. An embedded solution has absolutely no advantages compared to a regular expansian card... What was AMD thinking when they developed it. Don't they realize customers will just buy the 6750m instead? Seeing as that's entirely the same.... Right?