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Baron said:
HoloDust said:

Hm, wonder have you looked at test date of those "undeniably real" results? October 2010...Care to find something fresher with newer drivers? And for user results...I gave you several that are around same area at stock speeds....so  I suppose you're saying they are invalid cause they don't fit your case...Right....

No , you assume they are at stock speeds.

Now take a look at these;
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3426521
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3441757
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3434273
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3434190
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3396062
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3418848
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3418855
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3462690
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3407367
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3429191
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4187347
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3390021
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3390022

All heavily overclocked, all 7800+

Now are you really gonna tell me a stock card can do those numbers? Who do you think you're dealing with here. I've overclocked several cards. Overclocking a card by around 20% generally produces around 20% more performance. Especially with benchmarks like 3DMark.

Your only argument here is that the numbers you gave are with stock speeds, correct? And that 3dmark always records the correct speeds, correct?
Explain these then will you?
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3868118
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3868119
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3868129
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/3868130

Pretty impressive results with such an underclocked card. Must be heavily modified too seeing as they have 640 MB of memory....

And these are just a handfiul of the odd results that fill the result list. I spotted a few with 163 Mhz core speeds, a lot with 0 clock speeds and some more with 500 core and 700 memory speeds. But I guess those are actually the speeds used and that the 4850 is just so powerful that, even with such low clockspeeds, it still performs the same as a stock card... Right?

Next invalid argument please.

Now, if you cared to actually read what I wrote, you could've seen that P score does rise with different CPUs, albeit way more midly than CPU scores. On the other hand, GPU score is around the same for 4850 at stock speeds (7300-7500) no matter what CPU. But those are invalid too, cause....wait, they don't fit your case...Right...

True, GPU scores stays roughly the same at stock speeds. About 5700-5800.

And as for embeded....this is not Apple, there's nothing "magical" about it - in case of e6760 embedded means that GPU and memory are in one package, on same die...with 51.2GB/s bandwith...oh wait, that's the same bandwith as with 6750m with 800Mhz clock for memory (same as e6760)...no, no,  it's not the same chip as 6570/6650m/6750m, it's completely something different...Right...

You really believe an embedded solution has no advantages compared to an expansion card? Oh dear.

And who said anything about the e6760's memory bandwidth...

Not sure why you listed so many results in first batch - they are all from same user, not sure what that proves, haven't you noticed? At least I had courtesy to provide you with different users ;)

Also for your statement GPU score is 5700-5800 at stock - again, I gave you 4 wildly different processors with stock 4850, all giving GPU score in the same area (7300-7500) - so I have no idea where you pulled that off...

And once again - embedded in this case means GPU and 1GB of GDDR5 memory are on a single package (not die, I made an error in previous post) - memory bus is still 128bits, with bandwith of 51.2GB/s, exactly the same as 6750m (600/800) - so, oh dear, no there is no benefits when it comes to speed.

Now we can go on like this forever, but fact is I really don't care that much - if rumour is true, e6760 is 480:24:8 Turks based GPU with customization, and I would assume customization includes putting (embedding) 32MB of eDRAM on package too. I already made in some other post comparison step by step (shader/TMU/ROP) with Xenos, and at stock speed its "power" is 3x for shaders, 1.8 for TMU, and 1.2 for ROP. If its base clock is higher that stock e6760, 800+ Mhz like someone stated, than that "power" translates to 4x shader, 2.4x TMU, 1.6x ROP....there, you happy? ;)