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have at least one studio like Team Ico. 53 29.61%
 
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phenom08 on 21 September 2012
happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:
I truly don't understand your OP. You sound like you want Ninty to make games that appeal to you. Why? Why shouldn't Ninty do what they do best? To appeal to you? This makes no sense what so ever. So I'll just go with no, I would rather see Ninty in business.

So Nintendo catering to a segment puts them out of business?

No Nintendo doing what Sony does puts them out of business.



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happydolphin on 21 September 2012
phenom08 said:
happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:
I truly don't understand your OP. You sound like you want Ninty to make games that appeal to you. Why? Why shouldn't Ninty do what they do best? To appeal to you? This makes no sense what so ever. So I'll just go with no, I would rather see Ninty in business.

So Nintendo catering to a segment puts them out of business?

No Nintendo doing what Sony does puts them out of business.

Do you realize how shallow that answer is? Do you consider the option of Nintendo taking cues from Sony and integrating them partially into their current business model, mix and match?

Do you realize that the playstation 2 dominated its generation hands down? The Wii is less spectacular in that regard.

You might want to think this over.



phenom08 on 21 September 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Fayceless said:

"games that are for kids" = entire argument is invalid.

No, really.  Games like Zelda and Metroid and Super Mario are not made for kids.  They are made for anyone who enjoys games.  If you write off any game (other than those obviously "early development"-type games) as "for kids" you are only limiting yourself as to what you can enjoy.  While I love SotC-type games and those with "mature" stories (lol-the term "mature" makes me laugh when applied to video games)... I still very much enjoy Nintendo's games like Pikmin and Mario and Pokemon.

As for whether or not Nintendo should copy Sony, why should they?  Sony is not the paragon of good business strategy.  Many people enjoy their games, but those games aren't keeping the company, nor the gaming department, in the black.  Nintendo doesn't particularly excel at that sort of story-telling, so they leave it up to second and third partied to make those sorts of games, and they are right to do so.  Nintendo does what it does best, and nobody does it better.

Nintendo applys the light-hearted and child-like (with color scales and all) approach to games, which is why they are considered the disney of videogames. They are made to attract children and generally casuals. You'll find this is true with Nintendo products being more dear to women and children than any other brand and actually sharing a proper percentage of sales between males and females. The DS was like 50/50 in sales between both genders where as the others were dominated by men. I am sure the Wii was somewhere up there too.  It's not that Nintendo isn't good at making certain games...it's that they don't want to because their first part represents them as a company.

Yep just look at Fire Emblem, Metroid, Zelda, Captain Falcon, Xenoblade, and The Last Story. All clearly for the kids and casual lol. Instead of seeing what you want to see how about actually back things up with proof. If Ninty is for children because of Mario and the Wii games then so is Sony because of the LBP franchise, Move games, and Wonderbook. Why do you ignore Ninty's core titles?



iFlow on 21 September 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
iFlow said:
Ironic how Sony copied Nintendo in the past.


Yes, Sony has copied Nintendo, but what makes Sony great was its own doing. The same goes for Microsoft and Nintendo. What makes them all great is what they brought to the gaming table.

I respect you. I shall claim the Borderlands in honor of your name.



phenom08 on 21 September 2012
happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:
happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:
I truly don't understand your OP. You sound like you want Ninty to make games that appeal to you. Why? Why shouldn't Ninty do what they do best? To appeal to you? This makes no sense what so ever. So I'll just go with no, I would rather see Ninty in business.

So Nintendo catering to a segment puts them out of business?

No Nintendo doing what Sony does puts them out of business.

Do you realize how shallow that answer is? Do you consider the option of Nintendo taking cues from Sony and integrating them partially into their current business model, mix and match?

Do you realize that the playstation 2 dominated its generation hands down? The Wii is less spectacular in that regard.

You might want to think this over.

And yet now Sony is in last, please stop living in the past lol. The Wii is less spectacular in what regard lol? They both won their generations, are you that upset over Sony losing. Taking cues from Sony? What cues does Ninty need to take? This is just Sony fans trying to feel like Sony is doing well.



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Mr Khan on 21 September 2012
happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:
happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:
I truly don't understand your OP. You sound like you want Ninty to make games that appeal to you. Why? Why shouldn't Ninty do what they do best? To appeal to you? This makes no sense what so ever. So I'll just go with no, I would rather see Ninty in business.

So Nintendo catering to a segment puts them out of business?

No Nintendo doing what Sony does puts them out of business.

Do you realize how shallow that answer is? Do you consider the option of Nintendo taking cues from Sony and integrating them partially into their current business model, mix and match?

Do you realize that the playstation 2 dominated its generation hands down? The Wii is less spectacular in that regard.

You might want to think this over.

PS2's victory was largely due to strategic reasons, and had relatively little to do with Sony's first party studios.



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happydolphin on 21 September 2012
phenom08 said:

And yet now Sony is in last, please stop living in the past lol. The Wii is less spectacular in what regard lol? They both won their generations, are you that upset over Sony losing. Taking cues from Sony? What cues does Ninty need to take? This is just Sony fans trying to feel like Sony is doing well.

I'm a Nintendo fan >.>

@Mr. Khan. In part true. In the mean time, Sony still manages to sell 65M+ units. Their games still sell strongly, and have the appeal and potential to carry Sony forward still. Sony has a backbone for a core market, Nintendo does not.

Though the PS2 did prevail due to a strong strategy, the point I was trying to make is that Nintendo was not able to achieve what the PS2 achieved by employing a very competitive strategy with the Wii. The missing piece of the puzzle? Homer said it: prestige. Nintendo doesn't have it... yet.



Pavolink on 21 September 2012
happydolphin said:
amp316 said:

Yeah, I'm not a big TP fan myself.  To me it was OoT except longer and more boring.

When you say that they need to hire professionals, do you mean something like maybe the guys that worked Xenoblade Chronicles helping out with Zelda?       

Or maybe ex-Sony employees from ND or Team Ico. To be honest I've never played XB. I know I should, but anyways I haven't. From what I saw it pulls from the world of fantasy. But have you played Shadow of the Colossus? It's incredible and goes beyond fantasy into the surreal.

@Pavo. I tried to get the link where Iwata said he wanted to offer older experiences (not more mature just more relevant to an older audience, deeper), but I couldn't find it.

Interesting. Retro new game and Bayonetta comes to my mind. Maybe MH also.

That also could applie to something like Prime or a TP Zelda. We don't now what means for Nintendo "deeper" (I'm ok with Prime 4) or if that means a new IP or using the same franchises.

 

DanneSandin said:

Problem is that their business model means I need to get a PS3 to get thiese gaming experiense, and as a console maker Nintendo really should cater to everyone and all tastes. I obviously not alone in wanting something like this. How many here has ONLY got a Wii?

They shouldn't stop doing what they're doing, just add some.

They simply cannot make games for everyone. Sorry that's impossible. Neither MS or Sony does. That's why third party support is important.



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phenom08 on 21 September 2012
happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:

And yet now Sony is in last, please stop living in the past lol. The Wii is less spectacular in what regard lol? They both won their generations, are you that upset over Sony losing. Taking cues from Sony? What cues does Ninty need to take? This is just Sony fans trying to feel like Sony is doing well.

I'm a Nintendo fan >.>

And I'm a Sony fan :/ Don't really see your point, and again what does Ninty need to learn from Sony?



happydolphin on 21 September 2012
phenom08 said:
happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:

And yet now Sony is in last, please stop living in the past lol. The Wii is less spectacular in what regard lol? They both won their generations, are you that upset over Sony losing. Taking cues from Sony? What cues does Ninty need to take? This is just Sony fans trying to feel like Sony is doing well.

I'm a Nintendo fan >.>

And I'm a Sony fan :/ Don't really see your point, and again what does Ninty need to learn from Sony?

Are you suffering from some sort of dementia?

"And yet now Sony is in last, please stop living in the past"

"are you that upset over Sony losing"

"This is just Sony fans trying to feel like Sony is doing well."

-phenom08.

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