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Forums - Nintendo - DirectX 11 equivalent functionality 'potentially possible' on Wii U, says Unity CEO

Soleron on 21 September 2012
Cobretti2 said:
Correct me If I am wrong, but I thought directX was just a windows things?

Arn't console engines "equivalent" code for the functions of directX anyway.

It is, he's using 'DX11' as shorthand for 'the features that hardware implemented for Windows DX11'. . The Wii U's hardware supports DX10.1's featureset plus (maybe) a hardware tesselator. With that, they might be able to match DX11's features using shader code but it's unlikely devs will bother.



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Heavenly_King on 21 September 2012
F0X said:
Heavenly_King said:
It may have that power spec-wise; but the fact that the device needs to render 2 screens, invalidates the possibility to have those graphics at all.

I'd file this under "wait and see". If it's possible (the operative phrase), then it may be unlikely for the controller screen to be heavily utilized. And forget about multiplayer with two GamePads. Getting a higher-end Unreal Engine 3 game to run well on WiiU would be impressive enough (not to mention "next-gen"), though I have a feeling that a downgraded version of Unreal Engine 4 will be standard in a few years, once newer platforms have hit the market.

Of course, it depends on how far a developer will choose to push the Wii U. Nobody even tried to push the Wii further than GameCube, it seems, but perhaps history won't repeat itself.

Well nintendo said that so far that so far there is no game that supports 2 controllers, that is why the gamepad can not be bought from gaming stores in the US.   I think that the WiiU scenario is something like with the 3DS.    3DS graphics could be better if developers were not forced to use 3D.  This time if the WiiU developers were not forced to use a second screen graphics would also be better. 

So I think that according to this news, technically the WiiU has hardware capable of directx 11 functionality, but if you render the graphics twice, there will be some compromise.

But yeah, as you said lets wait and see XD



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F0X on 21 September 2012
Heavenly_King said:
F0X said:
Heavenly_King said:
It may have that power spec-wise; but the fact that the device needs to render 2 screens, invalidates the possibility to have those graphics at all.

I'd file this under "wait and see". If it's possible (the operative phrase), then it may be unlikely for the controller screen to be heavily utilized. And forget about multiplayer with two GamePads. Getting a higher-end Unreal Engine 3 game to run well on WiiU would be impressive enough (not to mention "next-gen"), though I have a feeling that a downgraded version of Unreal Engine 4 will be standard in a few years, once newer platforms have hit the market.

Of course, it depends on how far a developer will choose to push the Wii U. Nobody even tried to push the Wii further than GameCube, it seems, but perhaps history won't repeat itself.

Well nintendo said that so far that so far there is no game that supports 2 controllers, that is why the gamepad can not be bought from gaming stores in the US.   I think that the WiiU scenario is something like with the 3DS.    3DS graphics could be better if developers were not forced to use 3D.  This time if the WiiU developers were not forced to use a second screen graphics would also be better. 

So I think that according to this news, technically the WiiU has hardware capable of directx 11 functionality, but if you render the graphics twice, there will be some compromise.

But yeah, as you said lets wait and see XD


The only thing I disagree with is the 3DS statement. As of now, only one game has come close to pushing the 3DS to its limit (Resident Evil: Revelations), and it had the strongest 3D effect of any game I've seen on the handheld. It seems to me that 3D has yet to be a huge barrier for most developers. However, I can imagine that 3D support, or GamePad support, can cut into resources that could be used to generally improve graphics. And later on in the 3DS lifecycle, more concessions may have to be made to support 3D as more graphically intensive games are released. But again, this is all wait and see. Also, much speculation and skepticism while events play out.



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