If someone pays your debts, then the debts aren't forgiven.  Bankruptcy court ends up discharging debts.  And forgiveness is this also.  It means you don't demand repayment for something.  I emphasize that here, because the whole western view on Calvary and the forgiveness of sin, ends up being something that is suspect.  Oh, it can work, but then you get into Anslem and an abusive father who is so disgraced he has to practice child abuse on his child in order to placate his wrath.  And then, if you even dare move a bit beyond Reform theology in regards to the process of salvation, you end up with a salvation that ends up somehow making it appropriate to run a wrecking ball and destroy a perfectly good building so the building that should be condemned and torn down can still stand.   This gets explained as God putting a big cover over the building that should be condemned which is there to fool everyone into thinking the building that should be condemned is actually Jesus.  Also, there is the case of the understanding of the atonement and Christ's work as paying for a past wrong, rather than establishing something new.

I want you to read what I wrote and then explain how a debt that is paid for is forgiven.  And what forgiveness is in the Christian faith.  If forgiveness of sin is seen as someone having their debt paid for (not discharged), then when Jesus commands forgiveness is he telling people that they should pay anything to fix the wrong someone did with them, or get someone else to pay the bill for the wrongdoer?

And if you end up simply believing righteousness is imputed (as some sort of accounting trick), and not imparted, then you definitely miss the big picture, and I could end up having you to explain 1 John and James.  But, besides this, just explain how forgiveness means a dept is paid, and not discharged.

Well, the guy did say to seek him and you will find him.   On the evidence side, what could be done is perhaps some sort of way of knowing that you found Jesus, and a process of seeking Jesus.  At that point, you do the steps and see what the results are.  My experience in that is that process usually doesn't work, and things aren't as they seem.  It just gets weird, but if that is what the guy said, it should work, shouldn't it?

My geography teacher looks a lot like Jesus Christ.

He didn't specify the time frame that I will have to seek, so I guess results will be inconclusive and the null hypothesis will apply while I am searching :)

Well, you could press the issue.  And if you were doing it, you might want to track down the Fred KC Price theme song on evidence, for his TV show to challenge coming up with something that was testable.

Anyhow, a question I would ask: If you actually did evidence you found acceptable, what would you do?  I have a feeling that God (let's say there is a God somewhat connected to current notions) isn't just interested in belief in existence.  So, you have a checkbox checked, "God exists" and that is it?

Ok, well you're still going to hell, but you don't have to. The fact of the matter is that Christians nor the Maker wants you to go to hell. See Hell is kind of like those atoms you claim to believe in. You ever seen an atom? But you believe in them right? Someone who knows sbout atoms told you about them, right? and it sounded sensible right? Well, Hell, is kind of like an atom, lol, not because you don't see, doesn't make it any less real.

People like you who don't belive there is a hell, are like people who don't believe in atoms lol.

Yes, but some people can't. 

Wait, do you believe in atoms or not....?

I love the arguments in these types of threads! They aren't biased at all or in anyway on either side!

By the way, that was sarcasm. :P

That's an interresting question. Let's say I found evidence that I find undisputable and acceptable to me personally. There would no doubt be a transition period where I'd rethink a lot of my basic assumptions about the world. And I guess I would start praying a lot. I'd have a lot to ask god about. I would still always prefer to get my answers directly from god before a priest or a book though.

I'd also be much more carful about the kinds of porn I watch xD