Anyone attempting to apply Old Testament laws, without understanding historical context is asking for trouble.  From a Christian perspective, it would be suggested HIGHLY that Old Testament texts are viewed through what the New Testament says.

It was meant to be a silly pun, sorry.

Anyway, as others have pointed this is kind of a mechanism to protect the woman. Of course it has hideous loopholes and consequences, but it makes sense in the culture it's inserted since any better solution would cause even more problems or need a big shift in the culture itself. Of course all I'm saying is that it makes sense as a cultual guide for that time, which by itself doesn't help the case of an eternal, infallible holy-book, at least not withouth a lot of other mechanisms.

@Immortal:

Besides the selection bias other people talked about (as in the vocal atheists are the ones you're gonna notice), it's natural that atheists, on average, would be more argumentative about their "belief" for a few reasons, a good part of which have nothing to do with wanting feel like a badass rebel.

For one, since atheism is not standard, most people who are drawn to it will have a stronger opinion. Granted you'll have more rebel wanabes, but you'll also have (proportionally) more critical people and people who like debating and arguing more. It is of course true that many of these people will have an inflated sense of self-worth (as many hardcore members of any segment of society tend to have), but many won't, being in fact pretty humble.

By marrying her he must support the woman being forced to never marry someone else. Plus he pay the father would is provider of woman previously. This is punished not only with his money in current but forever.  If he tried to date/whatever sexual anyone else while married he would have broke another law which would lead to a futher punishment which would have been death/prisionment most likely. Most rapist don't want JUST one girl as this is very black and white view in the moment. You competely ignore the long term effect of this. Basically losing his freedom of marriage and never able to diviorce.

On the point of punishing her you ignored all my points and side-steped everything. You ignored that she would left without support and would die quicker without a husband at all. You ignore that she  will know that she will have income until she dies. You act like this nothing 

better than  going weeks  with food and water see how fast you think that the alterinative is better. It's real nice in your house where you can go get a job if you need money or get help from the government. But back in time there isn't much food or water(sometimes and the only you get food is contributing to the society and if you don't you don't eat. So, right now your saying is better she not eat than have food and the man made sure to pay forever for you. The man will forced to work to pay both families so he has work harder to bring in more money then if he was single. 

Your view is so black and white and a little of light hearted joking about something that was very serious and life altering. I can't imagine if I was raped and told " well you will never have food/children. You can't work so you may as well kill yourself, good luck"  It's just pure ego to make it seem like woman would want that. This reality not walfare state. 

Love how you ignore all the arguments Pezus seems like you're running out quick jokes because we know if you actual try to debate/discuss something you will get exposed for how little you know.

I never saw jay comment I respond to him on here on others things on here I did see.

Bible deals with the context of the event in which no one countered because they know the argument will not hold up.

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@ ninetailschris

"This is not worst then the other guy on here with the killzone  avater but this made me question why I was bothering with this wiki?"

Ha ha, I wonder the same thing. But, as you know, Jesus loves those even if they don't believe. It's funny however how non-christians think they are soo smart and that they can disprove the validity of the Bible, the works of Jesus or the existance of God, but when you press them, you find out that they don't know what they are talking about and ultimately can only resort to calling you crazy.

I like the way you dealt with that. I find that people in here are like race horses with blinders on, and as they pic up on a particular point, they go speeding down the track blindly, unable to see  or think about anything that is not right in front of them. I find that people in here, or at least in relation to this toopic, have their blinders on, and can't imagine how particular rules in Biblical times worked for that time ONLY. They try to apply rules meant for a particular time to the time we live in now, and they think they are cleavery for doing this. But God through Jesus already noted that rules change over time, but the underlaying priciples of (1) love God and (2) love your follow man, these two trumps all, for example, Jesus in updating old rules said:

Murder^(AA)

²¹ “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder,^[a](AB) and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ ²² But I tell you that anyone who is angry^(AC) with a brother or sister^[b][c] will be subject to judgment.^(AD) Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’^[d] is answerable to the court.^(AE) And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.^(AF)

²³ “Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, ²⁴ leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift.

²⁵ “Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. ²⁶ Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.

Adultery

²⁷ “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’^{[e](AG) 28} But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.^{(AH) 29} If your right eye causes you to stumble,^(AI) gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. ³⁰ And if your right hand causes you to stumble,^(AJ) cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Divorce

³¹ “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’^{[f](AK) 32} But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.^(AL)

Oaths

³³ “Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath,^(AM) but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’^{(AN) 34} But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all:^(AO) either by heaven, for it is God’s throne;^{(AP) 35} or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King.^{(AQ) 36} And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. ³⁷ All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’;^(AR) anything beyond this comes from the evil one.^[g](AS)

Eye for Eye

³⁸ “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’^{[h](AT) 39} But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.^{(AU) 40} And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. ⁴¹ If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. ⁴² Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.^(AV)

Love for Enemies

⁴³ “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor^[i](AW) and hate your enemy.’^{(AX) 44} But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,^{(AY) 45} that you may be children^(AZ) of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.^{(BA) 46} If you love those who love you, what reward will you get?^(BB) Are not even the tax collectors doing that? ⁴⁷ And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? ⁴⁸ Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.^(BC)

So. I don't think people can just take an old rule regarding rape and apply it trough out time. The only rules that God made that you apply thoughout time are as I quoted before (1) Love God and (2) Love your fellow man. So if these people in here would take their blinder off they would see that the rule regarding rape was meant to protect the woman, as women in those times weren't the IDNIPENDENT WOMAN of today.

Exactly, based on the definition of atheism, if you remain neutral (for no belief either way), then you are an atheist. But, there is no universally agreed upon definition of atheism, so I can't really say you're right or wrong. Just know that if someone says they are an atheist, then that doesn't necessarily mean they believe in the nonexistance of a higher being.

As for this:

because knowing and believing are nearly inseparately connected 

I disagree. People believe things without knowing all the time. For example, let's say you have a roommate. One day, when you're at the market buying grocerries (sp?), your room-mate calls and says, "Dude, don't buy any milk; I already have some." Most people would believe their roommate in this scenario. And so, they probably wouldn't buy any milk, becuase they believe they would be wasting money. But at the same time, they have no way of knowing if their roommate actually has any milk, at least until they got to the house and saw it with their eyes. They are plenty of scenarios like this where people make actions based on beliefs rather than knowledge.

Yes, it's great that the man is obligated to take care of the woman after he raped her. That's fine and all. I think it's a great rule there to protect the woman.

However, raping is still a horrible act, and the Bible allows it. The bible just says "You can rape a woman, but you gotta take care of her later." Seriously? Do you not see the immoralty with that? Yeah, it's a good rule in place that makes the man take care of the woman. But it still condones raping. It gives men permission to rape, in the first place. So, according to the bible, you can do something as disgusting as rape, as long as you make up for your actions. The rule shouldn't be "You have to take care of the woman you raped." It should say, "Do not rape!"

That's like saying "You can stab someone, but you must pay for their medical billls." Do you not see absurd that is?

When I wrote that I was speaking of the underlying basis by which people end up saying things are facts, and are true.  At the foundation of that is a degree of faith, confidence in trusts and things as authority they agree to submit to in order to believe.  Whether it be one's own senses, one's own reasoning, the word of others, or even the scientific method, at the core is a degree of trust or faith in something by which ones will state something is true or not.  At the core, knowing is still a form of believing, just a must stronger form.  Usually this form is one that is so automatic, you just don't end up thinking it could be incorrect.  Usually, it comes by a habitual frame of mind, with a lot of assumptions and degrees of faith in.  In this regard, they are nearly inseparately connected.