zuvuyeay said:
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oh, so you're after World War III. Gotcha.
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zuvuyeay said:
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oh, so you're after World War III. Gotcha.
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Faxanadu said: Hopefully the population will be very upset at him and stop buying his products. Very unpatriotic. |
I love that one. The tax we're talking is on everything above the million per year revenues, not the upper middle class in France. Again, it's not like the guy didn't commit already (legal or not) tax evasion yet (he benefits from measure to" keep" him in france). His case is so specific I can't believe It can lead to any extrem right resurgeance.
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Mr Khan said:
oh, so you're after World War III. Gotcha. |
yes thats right,WW3 nothing like an extreme left point of view just because someone doesn't share your politics
can't stand the left,the EU anything to get rid of them,right wing policies for me,i know its hard for lefties to understand sometimes that a large section of society doesn't agree with them but its true,i'm one of them
Faxanadu said: Hopefully the population will be very upset at him and stop buying his products. Very unpatriotic. |
What should he be patriotic to?
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I see posters to the left, and I see posters to the right. Both points of view are equally hypocritical. Both trajectories result in the same outcome. Which is a total economic collapse of the global economy. It is inevitable regardless of the approach used to combat the problem. The system doesn't have problems. The system is the problem, because the system is based upon a faulty premise that is in the best interest of both camps. Namely the notion that the way a economy works is too grow forever.
Economies are at their most basic a reflection of the natural order, and you cannot arbitrarily bend that order to your will. No matter the cause. Be it personal achievement or the common good. The fundamental problem is that the world is generating ever increasing wealth by increasing the number of participants in the economy while leveraging it all against limited or depleted resources. The economy must return to a state of equilibrium.
What we have today is a apparatus that was thrown together, and has been patched on the run. The patching has gotten us further down the road, but it isn't a permanent solution. The reason this man can be so incredibly rich is a byproduct of the system being broken, and he didn't do it all on his lonesome. Well meaning people are part of the problem too. By wanting to make peoples wishes a reality even if they weren't realistic.
In the end it doesn't really matter where he runs off too. He is still going to be as broke as the rest of us when the tower comes falling down. He can horde all the cash he likes. Once that happens all he will have is a lot of toilet paper. The one thing I will say is that he is running to the wrong place. Politicians have a way of placing blame on anyone other then themselves. The closer you are the bigger a target you become.
Mr Khan said:
Let's do a social experiment, then: go to the slums of Calcutta, have someone shoot you in the spine, then pull yourself up by your bootstraps and conquer that country. I'll wait. |
What makes you think people deserve other people's money? Why do you think that success should be punished?
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homer said:
What makes you think people deserve other people's money? Why do you think that success should be punished? |
People deserve a certain modicum of dignity (or the lower rungs on Marslow's Hierarchy of Needs): namely health, food, and shelter. It behooves the whole of society also if those who are unable to participate in society are made able to participate (and also fulfills another Need), and these Needs are superior to the "right of a man to the sweat of his own brow."
Those who are able to give should give, those who are in need should receive.
Now the how of all this is, of course, the tricky part, but there is little doubt that this course of action is *right,* save by those who hold unfeasibly extreme views of property rights.
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Mr Khan said:
People deserve a certain modicum of dignity (or the lower rungs on Marslow's Hierarchy of Needs): namely health, food, and shelter. It behooves the whole of society also if those who are unable to participate in society are made able to participate (and also fulfills another Need), and these Needs are superior to the "right of a man to the sweat of his own brow." Those who are able to give should give, those who are in need should receive. Now the how of all this is, of course, the tricky part, but there is little doubt that this course of action is *right,* save by those who hold unfeasibly extreme views of property rights. |
You hypocrite. Live by your own code if you believe it to be right. Seems like you don't mind giving up other people's money but don't depart with your own.
"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius
Mr Khan said:
People deserve a certain modicum of dignity (or the lower rungs on Marslow's Hierarchy of Needs): namely health, food, and shelter. It behooves the whole of society also if those who are unable to participate in society are made able to participate (and also fulfills another Need), and these Needs are superior to the "right of a man to the sweat of his own brow." Those who are able to give should give, those who are in need should receive. Now the how of all this is, of course, the tricky part, but there is little doubt that this course of action is *right,* save by those who hold unfeasibly extreme views of property rights. |
How, specifically, do you intend to get him to pay this money- regardless of tax rate. Pretend I'm him, convince me to stay in France.
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leatherhat said:
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I wouldn't. He's free to go, after having oh, say, 50% of his net worth seized by the State.
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