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AoE2 > everything else

I have been playing AoM and AoE3 again the last couple of weeks (So time consuming) and they are better then i remembered, Still AoE2>AoE>AoM>AoE3. Have yet to Try AoEo.



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I just looked up AoEO - 3 (THREE) playable civs! Unless you buy the premium package, then you get an additional 2 civs... Dafuq? really? I wanna be able to choose from a variety of civs!!



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Slimebeast said:
JEMC said:

They also got the age setting wrong, it was more modern that the previous games, but it didn't advance enough, or any. I mean, playing as a prehistoric village that manages to become the Roman Empire is satisfying, but playing as British citizens that try to conquest North America... and that's it, isn't that exciting.

The more sensible approach would have been do a "Empire Earth" game. Starting with prehistoric men and ending with intergalactical civilizations.

This, so much this.

AoE 3 had innovative gameplay mechanics but the historical time period between the 16th century and the Industrial Age simply wasn't interesting. And I didn't want to freaking colonize America, give me something epic! And the SP campaign that depicted the history of the fictional Black family was far from epic (not that SP matters that much for an RTS).

The Ancient times and Medieval times just are so much much more interesting settings than the era between 1500-1850, from a historical and mythological perspective, at least in the context of a game.

And swords-archers-siege is much more exciting than guns and cannons.

Clearly they should have tried an Empire Earth approach or just chosen a different epoch no matter if it had ruined the chronological order.

1000% only this. Anything else is wrong.

 

 

AoM was also a genius and objectively great game, and if you didn't like it you're wrong. There were also four civilizations, with the quite cheap and easily obtained expansion. You can't have a dozen civilizations in a game about well-known mythology. It just wouldn't have worked out right, and would have been too convoluted and complicated.



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Anyways, AoE Online returns to the gameplay of AoEII for the most part, with a simplified selection of civilizations like in AoM and AoEIII. It works fine for Online, though I'm not quite fond of the way Online works in a few other ways.


The better question for the thread is what the hell did they do to Rise of Nations? RoN was echelons above AoE in depth, quality, content, and IMO, fun, but RoN: Rise of Legends sucked Quetzalcoatl balls.



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benao87 said:
Kantor said:
DanneSandin said:
Aaah, yes -AoE I & II were great! I didn't really care for 3 really... Isn't there an AoE online right now?? Would sure love to see a 4th entry in the series :)

Don't hold your breath. Ensemble studios was closed several years ago, and I shudder to even think of how much more another studio would ruin the franchise.

The original plan was for AoE 4 to be about the first world war, which probably wouldn't go well. Ensemble hit on greatness twice with AoE2 and AoM, and I doubt they would see it again with that franchise.


Somebody must own the IP, they could use other studio, ...just wondering.

OT: I liked AoM, but not that much to play the expansions, or ... was there a sequel or just expansions? Anyways..

AoE, was awesome, and AoE II was even more awesome. I once played a demo of AoE III, probably a tutorial or something, ... it was boring.

Those are great games for LAN multiplayer.

Microsoft still owns the IP (Ensemble was a subsidiary of Microsoft), and recently they've made Age of Empires Online, which I've never played but which looks positively dire. So, again, I'm not getting my hopes up.

I think our next chance for an early-2000s style RPG is Warcraft 4 if Blizzard can ever spare a team from their RPGs and Starcraft.



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DanneSandin said:
I just looked up AoEO - 3 (THREE) playable civs! Unless you buy the premium package, then you get an additional 2 civs... Dafuq? really? I wanna be able to choose from a variety of civs!!

It's different from AoE 1/2 in that rather than having a lot of civs that have some minor differences, you build your civ up as you level to add bonuses and special abilities. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but it's actually a lot of fun. Try it and report back.



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ameratsu said:
DanneSandin said:
I just looked up AoEO - 3 (THREE) playable civs! Unless you buy the premium package, then you get an additional 2 civs... Dafuq? really? I wanna be able to choose from a variety of civs!!

It's different from AoE 1/2 in that rather than having a lot of civs that have some minor differences, you build your civ up as you level to add bonuses and special abilities. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but it's actually a lot of fun. Try it and report back.

I might just do that - but why only 3 playable civs?! damn...



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I've only played AoE3 and the warchiefs expansion in the aoe series, but they were great games. I never even figured people played the SP in these sort of games. The game was great for any level of players and the maps were great, and some of the best battles out of any strategy game i've ever played.



Kantor said:
benao87 said:
Kantor said:
DanneSandin said:
Aaah, yes -AoE I & II were great! I didn't really care for 3 really... Isn't there an AoE online right now?? Would sure love to see a 4th entry in the series :)

Don't hold your breath. Ensemble studios was closed several years ago, and I shudder to even think of how much more another studio would ruin the franchise.

The original plan was for AoE 4 to be about the first world war, which probably wouldn't go well. Ensemble hit on greatness twice with AoE2 and AoM, and I doubt they would see it again with that franchise.


Somebody must own the IP, they could use other studio, ...just wondering.

OT: I liked AoM, but not that much to play the expansions, or ... was there a sequel or just expansions? Anyways..

AoE, was awesome, and AoE II was even more awesome. I once played a demo of AoE III, probably a tutorial or something, ... it was boring.

Those are great games for LAN multiplayer.

Microsoft still owns the IP (Ensemble was a subsidiary of Microsoft), and recently they've made Age of Empires Online, which I've never played but which looks positively dire. So, again, I'm not getting my hopes up.

I think our next chance for an early-2000s style RPG is Warcraft 4 if Blizzard can ever spare a team from their RPGs and Starcraft.

The gameplay is actually pretty good. It can take a bit of time to build up your civ though. It takes the home city idea from AoEIII but leaves you to completely customise your civ over multiple scenarios/games. It's good fun though and worth trying... it's free after all.



DanneSandin said:
I just looked up AoEO - 3 (THREE) playable civs! Unless you buy the premium package, then you get an additional 2 civs... Dafuq? really? I wanna be able to choose from a variety of civs!!

It's because each civ is completely customisable and you have to build them up yourself. Essentially, you control how your civ develops. One player playing as the Greeks could have a very different civ in terms of bonuses, techs and units then somone else playing as Greek. Plus, because you have to build up a single civ, it takes ages to get them up to lvl 40, so you'll have a tough time playing all of them to a competitive level.