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Dilemma: what would you rather have:

A dominating weaker PS3 w... 69 40.12%
 
The PS3 as it is now 103 59.88%
 
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Kasz216 said:
Turkish said:
Kasz216 said:
I feel like developers would of just developed all their games for the 360 the first couple years anyway.

Also, there is the slight problem that the Move wasn't even around then.

Or rather, it was, but it wasn't anything like the released move.

It didn't get any wiimote type functionality until well after the Wii released.


Yeah, I think if it wouldn't have Move at launch, it would be some sort of advanced PS Eye thing. I think even without the motion controls, a weaker PS3 would have outsold the Wii, if only barely. On 1 hand you have the new Wii and in the other hand you have the PS3 that cost a bit more but is a traditional console. PS3s misfortune was releasing in a time with a 249 and 399 console.

Though if we're talking about a non-cell, non HD, PSeye based console...

Isn't that just the PS2, with the PSeye?

I mean, what differentiates this hypothetical console from the PS2?


It would have been HD, but would not have all those exotic components. It would be similar to an xbox 360, possibly weaker.



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Burning Typhoon said:
Well... Let's be happy it didn't.

Competition is good. Do you think we would have gotten so much greatness if the PS3 didn't have anything to out-show?

ps2/ps1 butfucked the competiton and still to this day has the greatest games library of any console ever, so no, as in the ps3 would probalby be even better than it is now



kowenicki said:

We've had this thread a bazillion times in the past.

Its just a ridiculous notion, But the answer is yes... they would have gone bust though.

Also:

Imagine if the Wii had launched at $299 with HD support.... even bigger winner than it is.

Imagine if the 360 hadn't had RROD and cost $299 and had Kinect bundled from day one....winner, PS3 DOA.

Its pointless.

Neogaf down or something?

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kowenicki said:
Ajescent said:
kowenicki said:

We've had this thread a bazillion times in the past.

Its just a ridiculous notion, But the answer is yes... they would have gone bust though.

Also:

Imagine if the Wii had launched at $299 with HD support.... even bigger winner than it is.

Imagine if the 360 hadn't had RROD and cost $299 and had Kinect bundled from day one....winner, PS3 DOA.

Its pointless.

Neogaf down or something?

Hey, we've had the Sony/vita/ps3 is doomed thread the same amount so why not this?

knock yourself out...

But you cant really debate this can you?  its just a wish list of fanciful events from an alternate universe where literally anything is possible with no cost constraints.  Lots of if's

Like we say up here... if my aunt had a cock she'd be my uncle.

 

Never said there was anything to debate or that I approved of its creation, just stating a point.



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Next gen is gonna be so interesting. I dont know why but I just have this feeling that WiiU will perform the same as 3DS in the West. The Nextbox to be media centered, W8, apps and all those things. PS4 to be more of a traditional console.

Ultimatly this could be the self destruction of the gaming industry, no unity, games needed to be optimized for each console hardware and controller, costing them more money, forcing more studios to go bankrupt. Smartphone/tablet danger. Iminnent danger right there.



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Turkish said:

It would have been HD, but would not have all those exotic components. It would be similar to an xbox 360, possibly weaker.


So basically you're asking "What if the PS3 never used the Cell processor?"

Because there wasn't much exotic in the PS3 other than the Cell, XDR memory, and Blu-Ray.

In a hypothetical where Sony engineers didn't get a boner over technology, I would say a Cell-less PS3 would have dominated.  The reason there were no games for the PS3 early in the life of this gen was because development for the Cell was challenging at best. 

It took Sony a year before they had an IDE that developers could use and code samples on how to do things.  They also would have wasted less time and money with the GPU allowing for a better GPU than was was initially installed.

I don't think Sony would have forced Microsoft out of the market, however I also don't think the Xbox 360 would have captured as much of the market as it did.  Also the HD market would have become far more competitive, far faster. 

I don't think the Move controller, even if Sony did have it ready for shipment in 2006, would have had an impact unless the games were there for it.  Sony has yet to try and target the casual market like both Nintendo and Microsoft have with their motion control schemes.  So I think you'd still be wondering what to do with the funky dildo.



The games would be there, we would be playing them with the deal dough controller.



 

Now lets imagine the doomsday scenerio of the sub $399 ps3

Had sony made a $399 ps3 with move, it could very well have been ever so slightly more powerful than the nintendo wii. There is no way it would have been near the performance of the 360 considering how the $600 ps3 isn't much more powerful than the 360 and this one is not only $200 cheaper but comes with a move bundle. It wouldn't have attracted any of the "nonegamers" that the wii did because the library would have been fairly empty of quality family titles. Crash and Spyro all but died in the ps2 era.

Meanwhile all the alienated core gamers would have flocked the the xbox despite the RROD fiasco because it was the only console that stuck to traditional controls, especially considering its early game library was much better than the ps3's (back then when titles like bioshock, oblivion, mass effect, dead rising, lost planet, etc. were exclusive) Those games and their sequels would end up never getting ported to the ps3 which has a different control scheme and isn't as powerful. Alot of the shockingly good ps3 exclusives would have ended up being lame, because the main sticking point to most of them is the incredible graphics and cinematics which they would no longer have.

So in conclusion. PS3 sales would have started off slightly better due to the cheap price, but never picked up steam like the ps3 currently did because the system wouldn't do casual better than the wii nor core better than the 360. It ends up selling much less than the current ps3 will. Games in general also suffer massively as the only competent developers of motion controlled games has proven to be nintendo and sony. Almost all third party games end up sucking for both those systems and the 360 ends up getting fewer third party games as well because developers can't just port them to the ps3 causing most current classics to end up being unprofitable. Console sales began declining much sooner, and next gen would have started 2 years ago had the ps3 launched at sub $399.



If they kept it simple, they would have dominated. But were entering the 'What if' category again.

It wouldn't have forced MS out of business though. They would have done something less monopolistic and more competitive.

But in a space of 5-6 years.. I would say Sony would have dominated in the first 3 years but im very uncertain of the rest.



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Mr Khan said:
kowenicki said:

We've had this thread a bazillion times in the past.

Its just a ridiculous notion, But the answer is yes... they would have gone bust though.

Also:

Imagine if the Wii had launched at $299 with HD support.... even bigger winner than it is.

Imagine if the 360 hadn't had RROD and cost $299 and had Kinect bundled from day one....winner, PS3 DOA.

Its pointless.

Neogaf down or something?

Turkish was banned from GAF


Lol. Howcome?



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