lilbroex said:
SvennoJ said:
I have to agree with theprof on this one. "The game now fits all on one disc due to Square Enix’s decision to ditch Hi-Res FMVs for in-engine cut scenes." This is the main reason I did not buy 13-2. I can forgive final fantasy a lot of misgivings as long as I know I'll get rewarded regularly with spectacular cutting edge cgi.
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Even I said that the only problem would be video and audio data. That is not the major complaint I keep hearing though, nor was it the one I was talking about.
I'm talking about the claim that entire areas were cut out "beause of the 360" not HD Full Motion Video.
The devs made it clear that they cut out those areas and events because they viewed them as uncessary for the plot driven game play.
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Ok lilbro, I'll admit that you have a very defensible point. Without coming out and saying that their quoted "entire game worth of content was cut" was due to the 360 thusly angering fans everywhere, I can only speculate as to the reason why they would simply cut content from a game that is literally dwarfed by previous final fantasy titles, which is sad because ff12 was ONE DISC.
I can only, logically but maybe wrongly, note that SE is willing to cut cgi, and is logically willing to cut other content (which isn't polygonal but pre-rendered areas with large file sizes) which was then even for the "necessary content" admittedly downgraded (more heavily compressed) due to file size.
I can only look at other games that were multiplat, like Rockstar's CEO on GTA4 quoted as "On PS3 you've got a guarantee that every machine is going to have a hard-drive and, with Blu-ray, you've got plenty of storage, whereas on Xbox 360 there's no guarantee of a hard-drive and you're working with the DVD format. Does that create limitations? Yep."" But maybe that's wrong of me.
I can only see SE saying "we want both versions to be identical", along with “Obviously, when we talk about XIII it’s for PS3 and Xbox – with PS3 being on Blu ray there would be enough memory, but on Xbox probably not. At the moment we’re thinking of releasing the voice in English only. Are there many people who would like to play with Japanese voices?” then see it not included making me see a link in those quotes. Maybe I'm wrong for thinking that.
Sure. You have a point.
I can't, without a doubt, prove that the game's content was cut smaller than ff12,10,9,8,7 because of the 360.
I will concede in that vain, that evidence from id's rage, capcom's lost planet 2, rockstars gta 4,and team bondi's LAnoire (who hilariously said they had 2 full arcs they cut BECAUSE OF BLURAY LIMITATIONS)....cutting content due to dvd space limitations (all these on 3 dvds) does not mean Square Enix did so. It is also not proof that any of them actually DID (well except rockstar) because while devs say they did, higher ups say they did not. That is not a confirmation of evidence. I understand that.
I also understand that audio is what takes up the most space, not areas, and it's not proven that lightning nor any other character actually spoke at all during the "full game's worth of content" they cut, so it's very likely that had it been deemed acceptable, they could have put the content in, since with sidequests there's usually no dialogue anyway.
I understand that 5 companies all saying that they've cut the game in some way, does not reflect upon each other's company's decision to cut due to limitations on dvd disc space. In fact, to my chagrin, at least one of those games cut content because Bluray wasn't large enough, not because dvd wasn't. All of these companies have since released this extra content as DLC, so in the end, what it boils down to is that companies were simply blaming dvd space (arguably) in order to release DLC without looking like chiselers. The fact that most of these games are compressed on the dvd, and uncompressed on ps3 could only be described as a keen attempt to LOOK like they were trying to fit things on dvd, so that people would feel sorry for them.
I concede this argument to your cunning and strong argument of "they never explicitly said that". I am humbled by this exchange and will now saunter away in utter defeat.
EDIT: This post has had additional information cut from it due to size limitations.