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joeorc said:
osed125 said:

I really fear about the future of the Vita, one of the games that was supposed to safe the handheld in the west looks horrible (CoD), so the only one who's left to do the job is AC III: Liberation. There's still Sony All-Stars and LBP but IMO those games will only give the system a temporary boost, not enough to safe it in the long run


While i get that you fear the PSVita going the way of the PSPGo, there is a few reason's why that is quite unlikly to happen.

 the PSVita will have not just  PS3 cross platform Play but be used as a control pad for the PS3 this firmware update to the PSVita is alot more significant than people have stopped to think about what this really means for owner's of the PSVita and PS3 both. 

example:

 Head of development services Kish Hirani said that support is "on the cards" provided they can work out a way to replicate touch control on the platform. "The interesting challenge is how do you put a touch interface on the PS3, because it doesn't have one!

The Playstation Mobile application platform releasing mean's a great number of games get not only released on Mobile devices but you only have to buy it once and play it across all your devices that are Playstation Mobile certified.

and Since Trophy Support is also going to on Playstation Mobile, along with free3play games also, it's alot of added advantages for developer's wanting to sell their software, especially if your a small indie developer or publisher wanting to sell your software to a larger audience than just counting the PSVita by its self instead of looking at the advantages of including the rest of the eco system ontop of the just the PSVita to sell your software on.

The cross platform play is cool and everything but, will the normal consumer invest in both a Vita and PS3/PS4? 

If the Vita doesn't have a vast library of good games, why will someone pay $250 for just using it for the cross play and some few games here and there?. Especially since the Wii U can do the same for a cheaper price. I'm talking the normal consumer here, not the harcore gamer

The cross play it's a really good idea but if the Vita doesn't have games, there is no good reason to buy it just for that imo.



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Nem said

Again, you make the point that Sony is fine and is doing good stuff as a company. I agree with you that PSN rocks, i love all the deals i got on my PSP for it. But, it doesnt solve the problem we have here: The vita is not selling.

Support means 3rd party exclusive releases on the system. You know things like you have on the 3DS on the form of resident evil revelations, Kingdom hearts 3D, theatrythmn, etc. Possible ease to port phone games does nothing to help sell the system.

Ok tell you what, what Sony is really bad at is Marketing and product development. The Vita is a terrible product in marketing terms. It is a great system tech wise, but it presents nothing unique. If a product has nothing unique the consumer wont get it over another product with similar offer and uniqueness (3DS games + 3D), Tablets (games + ease of work), and phones (games+phone on a small package). Vita only has the back touch screen wich has very limited use (only the tear game has tapped into it) and games, wich at this time are lacking. Result, the consumer doesnt want the system. Consequence, developers will stop releasing games for it cause its not profitable.

Again im not saying they are fine, what im pointing out, This is not a sprint, and the change in not only the Handheld Market  but the entire Game console market has already happened. You still concentrating on just the Now!! when it's not about just the Now! the Console market Has been disrupted, it's not if it already Has been. When you have consumer electronic companies that do not even make a games console selling smartdevices that have chiset's as powerful as these new Mobile chipset's are.

 

you are still looking at this as just the PSVita by itself

"If a product has nothing unique the consumer wont get it over another product with similar offer and uniqueness (3DS games + 3D), Tablets (games + ease of work), and phones (games+phone on a small package). Vita only has the back touch screen wich has very limited use (only the tear game has tapped into it) and games, wich at this time are lacking. Result, the consumer doesnt want the system. Consequence, developers will stop releasing games for it cause its not profitable."

Let's put it this way, where would the PS3 be without 3rd party developer's right? when the PS3 first came onto the market it was very slow to build up sales right?

That did not stop Sony from taking a massive cut in profit's and market share, That's one of the reason's they are in the shape they are in now, is problems in the direction of the company as a whole, the thing is now Sony's shifting to a market that unlike their games console market viability has massive growth. The fact that Sony is selling 7.4 million xperia devices per sales quarter is the reason why that's where their concentrating.

Look if people are already viewing the PSVita dead and it ends up to sell less and the the Retail stores will not carry the system right?

but as it is right now that's not the case, until that happens or does not happen we will not know other wise, all we know is that Sony's increasing the support for the PSVita by having Official Homebrew and indie development and small publisher's to put their creative works with trophy support on the PSVita as they would already with other smartphones, and other smartdevices.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

joeorc said:
Kynes said:
Kenology said:
There are a few regulars who I would like to see comment on these numbers... and they are conspicuously silent/absent...


They are in la la land aka "official" thread.


or they just frankly do not care anymore! La La land or what ever you want to call it, is exactly why people may have went there ,many times just do not care about what you think or post anymore, the only people i would say or care are the exception of like minded people. Who seem to be saying thing's like what you just posted, that just to cause A: trouble to incite a certain reaction, B: just to add to their EGO's.

after a while people just do not care anymore.

or they are embarresed having predicted the mighty vita would slay the 3ds. Just saying.



Kynes said:

Believe me, if Sony doesn't make a miracle, they will care.

Haven't you heard? In the Vita thread, only good things and massive praise to the Vita shall be given, it's Vgchartz's personal N4G.



morenoingrato said:
Kynes said:

Believe me, if Sony doesn't make a miracle, they will care.

Haven't you heard? In the Vita thread, only good things and massive praise to the Vita shall be given, it's Vgchartz's personal N4G.


To be fair in a vita thread you can expect a little bias. Its strange how some folks are just not getting how seriously screwed the vita is if it does not have a good holiday period this year. I remember people posting on here saying the 3ds was doomed, and whilst i dont have exact sales figures to hand im sure they were much better than where the vita is currently at. For me the only thing that would help resurrect the vita at this time would be a remake of final fantasy 7. I know people say monster hunter but thats only for japan, the games very rarely get released over here.



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Kynes said:

Believe me, if Sony doesn't make a miracle, they will care.

Someone should give this book to Sony as a present. They didn't understand the meaning of vita.

About what? where the Games will go?

exactly where will those games go , to microsoft? to Nintendo ? or what about companies that do not even make a game console?

I mean listen to you:

" if Sony doesn't make a miracle"

 miracle? REALLY? ABOUT WHAT, PLAYSTATION? Sony as a company? their Entire Company to go belly Up?

It's the same thing over and over just repeated and worded different, same question has been asked over and over about the survivability of Sony as a company pretty much this entire generation, the fact that Sony is changine thing's does not mean squat, all it means they are changing thing's right now. The fact you and other's keep doing what you are doing is fine and dandy, many people are just tired to argue with you and other's anymore about it because like you nothing is going to change their mind's about you or their outlook about Sony. so they don't play the game anymore.

Like i said you can only kick a dog so many times before he leaves, and ignores you. Its like you yelling into a room full of yes men and people that will agree with you but no one else to argue with , after a while it get's boring right?



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Kynes said:
Kenology said:
There are a few regulars who I would like to see comment on these numbers... and they are conspicuously silent/absent...


They are in la la land aka "official" thread.


You opened a whole can of worms, you know that, right?



joeorc said:
Kynes said:
Kenology said:
There are a few regulars who I would like to see comment on these numbers... and they are conspicuously silent/absent...


They are in la la land aka "official" thread.


or they just frankly do not care anymore! La La land or what ever you want to call it, is exactly why people may have went there ,many times just do not care about what you think or post anymore, the only people i would say or care are the exception of like minded people. Who seem to be saying thing's like what you just posted, that just to cause A: trouble to incite a certain reaction, B: just to add to their EGO's.

after a while people just do not care anymore.

they don't care about the vita or people talking about it in a thread how its basically close to a possible million units over tracked of its 2.7m that are recorded on here? you are talking about the same idiots that wake up in the middle of the night if the words psvita are typed in any forum on any site to come and make a "YEAH I TOLD YOU SO" if it's in the positive or a "YOU ARE SO WRONG" reply if it's in the negative, you think in reality they aren't caring right now? Yeah I well bet they're not the least bit just rocking back and forth with their blinkers on waiting for tretton to come out and do another ankle low bow and make it all go away.

 

I've nothing against people enjoying something, but when it gets to the point where any conversation regarding it resorts to critisism being answered only with abuse in the lines of "GO PLAY YOUR 3DS THEN KIDDIES" rather than actually going... oh yeah I guess that is a valid point... but you know to counter that how about X or Y, that is pretty much the death of something, look back 3 months ago, every single thing said as a legit concern from people about SW:ToR was answered with abuse and yelling to go back to wow, and what happened? they all went back to wow. well done. Fanboys of one product do nothing but damage the image of that product and make people dread buying it just incase they might come off sounding so narrow minded to others.

 

tl:dr fanboy something too much, you hurt what you love.



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joeorc said:
Kynes said:

Believe me, if Sony doesn't make a miracle, they will care.

Someone should give this book to Sony as a present. They didn't understand the meaning of vita.

About what? where the Games will go?

exactly where will those games go , to microsoft? to Nintendo ? or what about companies that do not even make a game console?

I mean listen to you:

" if Sony doesn't make a miracle"

 miracle? REALLY? ABOUT WHAT, PLAYSTATION? Sony as a company? their Entire Company to go belly Up?

It's the same thing over and over just repeated and worded different, same question has been asked over and over about the survivability of Sony as a company pretty much this entire generation, the fact that Sony is changine thing's does not mean squat, all it means they are changing thing's right now. The fact you and other's keep doing what you are doing is fine and dandy, many people are just tired to argue with you and other's anymore about it because like you nothing is going to change their mind's about you or their outlook about Sony. so they don't play the game anymore.

Like i said you can only kick a dog so many times before he leaves, and ignores you. Its like you yelling into a room full of yes men and people that will agree with you but no one else to argue with , after a while it get's boring right?

What is getting boring is reading your kicking a dog reference. Jeez.



joeorc said:

loose all support? really?  If the support was really drying UP, than 30+ new games for it would not be getting released this fall! What many still are not taking into account, is the PSVita does not have to keep pace in sales with the 3DS, there is only two companies making dedicated Handheld Game systems, Nintendo and Sony, what Sony is making sure of is that "UNLIKE NINTENDO" that Support for the PSVita will have the Playstation Mobile, to provide more software support for the PSVita, since both the PSVita and the Nintendo 3DS have no chance and are never going to be the market leader in Handheld's anymore, the reason being is the Smartphone has and will take a big chunk of the market share for Gaming in the HandHeld space, when as an example  Samsung can sell over 90 million smartphones a sales Quarter, this is no longer just about dedicated Game handheld's anymore, that's one of the reason's why the PSVita's Hardware is aligned close to that of smartphones, since many 3rd party publisher's and developer's already have moved their licenced game engines over to those ARM Cortex chipset's the PSVita will benefit due to the fact it's also bearing the same hardware Cortex chipset's that Apple IOS is using as is Sony's own Xperia line, as is HTC..etc.

The Development for Quick pick up and play games are far cheaper, and investment is less for far larger ROI even with Sony's less than steller Sales for the PSVita right now, 2 Million is not much for little as a year on the market, but it's investment into development into the Playstation Mobile platform would more than cover the cost of investment with the ROI in the platform due to the fact it's low cost for development is more aligned with the already large market of the smartphones with their development cost's with the Playstation Mobile.

the fact that Sony is heavly invested into that part of the market, more so than Nintendo and Microsoft.

Sony is selling over 7.4 million xperia smartphones a sales quarter, is it no wonder that Sony is going where the Money is going right now! and Sony is not even in the TOP 3 of the sales of smartphones per sales Quarter in the market. But the main point is Once again, is When game companies like EPIC, Valve,idSoft, Havok etc, have made their game engines run on these smartphones and smart TV's and Tablet's the change in the market is not something that will happen, IT Has already happened. The Mobile Games market is no longer just about Nintendo and Sony by themselves anymore, Sony is taking full advantage of that change right now.

I like the new tune. Before it was "Vita will sell well thanks to an awesome library", now the tune goes"they'll both fail to sell anyways, so low sales don't matter.".