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selnor on 16 August 2012
lilbroex said:
wfz said:

Whether or not it's true, this isn't good news. The fact that this is even a debate shows that:

1) The Wii U is really not that much more powerful than current gen consoles
2) Developers feel like bashing Nintendo
3) These developers don't actually understand what the hardware can do


No it does't show any of those things. There were people who thought the PS1 had better graphics than the N64. There were people who debated whether the Wii had better graphics than the PS2...some still think the PS2 has better graphics for that matter.

Most make these arguments because it puts them in higher standing with Sony and Micrsoft was well as there fanbase. They are saying what they want to here.

Of course this may be another scenario with words being taken out of context like they were with the Tekken devs comment. It doesn't sound like he is stating what the console can do at max. He's saying what he has observed it to do at the least as far as I can tell.

Fact of the matter is that every known Wii U third party game is outputing at higher resolutions and frame rates than the PS3 or 360 on top of rendering to a second screen. That says enough.

Who the hell thought PS1 had better visuals than N64?

Every PS1 3d game had polygons jumping and shifting about. Mario 64 was a launch title and PS1 didnt have 1 single 3d game that matced it.



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selnor on 16 August 2012
pezus said:
selnor said:
spurgeonryan said:
Mr Khan said:
Here we go again...


Even a little better is actually really good I think. Just look at "The Last of Us". Looks amazing on the PS3! If the Wii U can push out stuff like that, but a little better then we are in for a nice treat this gen.


I think more importantly look at titles like Crysis 3, Hitman, the animations in AC3 and of course this:

 

But even so, Wii U is supposed to have a GPU based on the AMD Radeon HD 4770. Which is a clear 2x more powerful than PS3 and 360 GPU.

This is?

halo 4



selnor on 16 August 2012
pezus said:
selnor said:

halo 4

Cool, looks great. Would like to see that in full size though. Is this in some trailer?



yeah the latest. Singleplayer is gonna look really impressive. Im glad 343 took over. They really are doing what they said. Aiming for the best the 360 can do without breaking it lol.

Its native 720p to.



lilbroex on 16 August 2012
selnor said:

Who the hell thought PS1 had better visuals than N64?

Every PS1 3d game had polygons jumping and shifting about. Mario 64 was a launch title and PS1 didnt have 1 single 3d game that matced it.


Go tell that to them. There were and still are a lot. Just search google. They can nitpick like you've never seen.

selnor said:

pezus said:
selnor said:

halo 4

Cool, looks great. Would like to see that in full size though. Is this in some trailer?



yeah the latest. Singleplayer is gonna look really impressive. Im glad 343 took over. They really are doing what they said. Aiming for the best the 360 can do without breaking it lol.

Its native 720p to.


Halo has always been a feat of design, not capability. you would be surprised at how much is not being done in Halo.



lilbroex on 16 August 2012
selnor said:

Who the hell thought PS1 had better visuals than N64?

Every PS1 3d game had polygons jumping and shifting about. Mario 64 was a launch title and PS1 didnt have 1 single 3d game that matced it.


Go tell that to them. There were and still are a lot. Just search google. They can nitpick like you've never seen.

selnor said:
pezus said:
selnor said:

halo 4

Cool, looks great. Would like to see that in full size though. Is this in some trailer?



yeah the latest. Singleplayer is gonna look really impressive. Im glad 343 took over. They really are doing what they said. Aiming for the best the 360 can do without breaking it lol.

Its native 720p to.

Halo has always been a feat of design, not capability. you would be surprised at how much is not being done in Halo.

 

Thee objects and environements in Halo are extremely simplitic but artisticly well made. The "fantastic" Master Chief modal from the original Halo only used 2000 polygons with some monocolored bump mapping. He was less detailed than Jak from the first Jack and Daxter.



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selnor on 16 August 2012
lilbroex said:
selnor said:

Who the hell thought PS1 had better visuals than N64?

Every PS1 3d game had polygons jumping and shifting about. Mario 64 was a launch title and PS1 didnt have 1 single 3d game that matced it.


Go tell that to them. There were and still are a lot. Just search google. They can nitpick like you've never seen.


Thats crazy. PS1 could simply not run games like Mario 64, Perfect Dark ( this game absolutely destroys completely any PS1 visuals ) Wave Race 64, Goldeneye, Turok 2 hell this list is nearly endless. Resi 2 on N64 also looked way better on N64 in gameplay. Cutscene was lost  in compression though.



selnor on 16 August 2012
pezus said:
Hmm why have I not seen this trailer posted here? Is it a gamescom trailer?


official halo 4 thread. We are discussing it there. Or drooling rather than discussing.



selnor on 16 August 2012
lilbroex said:
selnor said:

Who the hell thought PS1 had better visuals than N64?

Every PS1 3d game had polygons jumping and shifting about. Mario 64 was a launch title and PS1 didnt have 1 single 3d game that matced it.


Go tell that to them. There were and still are a lot. Just search google. They can nitpick like you've never seen.

selnor said:

pezus said:
selnor said:

halo 4

Cool, looks great. Would like to see that in full size though. Is this in some trailer?



yeah the latest. Singleplayer is gonna look really impressive. Im glad 343 took over. They really are doing what they said. Aiming for the best the 360 can do without breaking it lol.

Its native 720p to.


Halo has always been a feat of design, not capability. you would be surprised at how much is not being done in Halo.

Halo 2 was arguably the best technical achievement of last gen.

Halo 3 andd Reach were lazy in visuals this gen. Halo 4 and 343 are changing that. Halo last gen was a feat of Capability. Halo 1 showed whaat wass capable. Halo 2 showed how to break an Xbox.



lilbroex on 16 August 2012
selnor said:

Halo 2 was arguably the best technical achievement of last gen.

Halo 3 andd Reach were lazy in visuals this gen. Halo 4 and 343 are changing that. Halo last gen was a feat of Capability. Halo 1 showed whaat wass capable. Halo 2 showed how to break an Xbox.

No it wasn't. That was Rebel Strike. It achieved more than any game last gen. The second closest to that was Rogue Leader. Its not debateble.

People may have liked Halo and its artstyle more as a matter of opinion, but on a technical level, it wasn't even half way there.



selnor on 16 August 2012
lilbroex said:
selnor said:

Halo 2 was arguably the best technical achievement of last gen.

Halo 3 andd Reach were lazy in visuals this gen. Halo 4 and 343 are changing that. Halo last gen was a feat of Capability. Halo 1 showed whaat wass capable. Halo 2 showed how to break an Xbox.

No it wasn't. That was Rebel Strike. It achieved more than any game last gen. The second closest to that was Rogue Leader. Its not debateble.

People may have liked Halo and its artstyle more as a matter of opinion, but on a technical level, it wasn't even half way there.

Are you kidding me? Rebel Strike had nowhere near the scale of Halo 2. Nowhere near. I started withh GC last gen, it was lasst gen I left Ninty. I finished Rogue leader on a chipped GC I bought to play US games cause I couldnt wait for UK release. I played Halo about 9 months after that, and was very clearly blown away at that time. The sheer size of the levels, structures and draw distance was clear. RS2 RL wwas a fligt sim that wile looked good clearly lacked any sort of scale comparison to Halo.