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Mnementh on 16 August 2012

kitler53 said:

wow, way to miss the point.

it shows mobile (smartphones) revenue > Nintendo handhelds (3DS + DS) + Playstation handhelds (PSV + PSP)

it shows the total mobile (everything above combine) has 23% growth which is highly skewed by smartphone growth at 83%.

That was meant? OK, I saw, that the mobile device have only a small part compared to console- and PC-sales. But yes, they are better than handheld-consoles. But the point we are arguing about mostly is: had it negatively impacted the sales of handheld-games? Does someone have the handheld-game numbers from EA at the time of the introduction of the DS and PSP?



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chocoloco on 16 August 2012
wfz said:
chocoloco said:

Your biggest mistake in your thinking is confusing console and pc gaming with portable gaming. These games you mention are not portable games except for 2D mario. I do not think anyone thinks moblile platforms are affecting consoles as much as they are portables. The games on consoles are too different and more adavanced than portables can currently do. Nintendo and Sony will lose out in the hendheld business, not the console business. Hence the title of the thread.

I am not confusing anything. I realize handheld platforms are dying and mobile is on an upswing. Those games I mentioned were actually all *console* games (I meant the NSMB on the Wii).

With the handhelds dying, people are afraid that these cheap mobile games will wipe out the handheld games that people traditionally enjoy. Yet at the same time, people are also admitting that mobile platforms are receiving more and more complex games. Look at the megaman game that was just announced.

These game styles people love won't just disappear. If for some reason handhelds and consoles both die, you can bet that those franchises and game styles will still be made for whatever platforms are thriving. As long as the audience is there, the sales will be there...

Yes you are confusing things because tablets cannot emulate the wii, PS3, and 360 currently. maybe the can the wii,  I do not know. That and portable games by Nintendo are nothing like Sony, MS, and PC games. They are like wii games of course, but that is it. Console games are not the same as hendheld games period.

I agree the game styles will not dissapear. Consoles will continue to make HD, PC style games and they will be popular. But, I see tablets and mobile phones getting a lot more of Nintendo and Sony style portable games and selling them at a fair price unlike those companies. Perhaps Sony and Nintendo will learn to put high quality portable games on the most versitle platforms, tablets and mobile phones. I hope so.



mysticwolf on 16 August 2012

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daveJ on 16 August 2012
Mnementh said:

That was meant? OK, I saw, that the mobile device have only a small part compared to console- and PC-sales. But yes, they are better than handheld-consoles. But the point we are arguing about mostly is: had it negatively impacted the sales of handheld-games? Does someone have the handheld-game numbers from EA at the time of the introduction of the DS and PSP?

 

all figures in millions, you can see 2005-2006 cellular was nothing, 2008 about a 1/3 of portables to total where its about 4x as big as portables combined.
Q3 Q4 Q1 Q2 Q3 FY05 FY05 FY06 FY06 FY06 PSP - 18 33 45 120 Nintendo DS 16 7 12 8 36 Game Boy Advance 39 9 6 7 35 Cellular Handsets - - 1 2 1

 

 


Q4 Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 FY07 FY08 FY08 FY08 FY08 PSP 39 21 21 74 69 Nintendo DS 27 25 47 122 36 Cellular Handsets 36 33 37 38 41 Game Boy Advance 3 2 4 2 -

 



All bow to me the VGChartz current reigning 3DS prediction champion 

 Bet with tbone51: Pokeon X & pokemon Y will not sell more than 8 million in 2013

 jarrod said:The Xbox360 or ps3 will not sell more than 75million units

July 2009 daveJ said: True the wii has a large lead now but by 2017 the most likely result will be 1. ps3 2. xbox360 3. wii <-- wii's successor launched in 2011 effectively killing sales of the wii

 2009 daveJ said: The wii will not break the 50% marketshare barrier it will go below the 40% marketshare barrier though in the future. VGChartz members: Impossible, youre an idiot that knows nothing about sales

bobgamez on 16 August 2012
chocoloco said:
wfz said:
chocoloco said:
 

Your biggest mistake in your thinking is confusing console and pc gaming with portable gaming. These games you mention are not portable games except for 2D mario. I do not think anyone thinks moblile platforms are affecting consoles as much as they are portables. The games on consoles are too different and more adavanced than portables can currently do. Nintendo and Sony will lose out in the hendheld business, not the console business. Hence the title of the thread.

I am not confusing anything. I realize handheld platforms are dying and mobile is on an upswing. Those games I mentioned were actually all *console* games (I meant the NSMB on the Wii).

With the handhelds dying, people are afraid that these cheap mobile games will wipe out the handheld games that people traditionally enjoy. Yet at the same time, people are also admitting that mobile platforms are receiving more and more complex games. Look at the megaman game that was just announced.

These game styles people love won't just disappear. If for some reason handhelds and consoles both die, you can bet that those franchises and game styles will still be made for whatever platforms are thriving. As long as the audience is there, the sales will be there...

Yes you are confusing things because tablets cannot emulate the wii, PS3, and 360 currently. maybe the can the wii,  I do not know. That and portable games by Nintendo are nothing like Sony, MS, and PC games. They are like wii games of course, but that is it. Console games are not the same as hendheld games period.

I agree the game styles will not dissapear. Consoles will continue to make HD, PC style games and they will be popular. But, I see tablets and mobile phones getting a lot more of Nintendo and Sony style portable games and selling them at a fair price unlike those companies. Perhaps Sony and Nintendo will learn to put high quality portable games on the most versitle platforms, tablets and mobile phones. I hope so.

or, they could just make their, which is what nintendo is going to do, just looking at the wii u its pretty much a tablet with game controls. wouldn't surprise me at all if they combine home consoles with their handhelds