Yeah MS doesn't make money on the 360? Give me a break. The system hasn't had It's price cut for years and components are obviously cheaper. Anyone who says they don't make money on the system is borderline trolling.

Now the division on the other hand? Yeah. Because it involves other components, not just the 360. MS also dumped in a lot of money into Kinect advertisement. Lets also not forget 720 R&D which is pretty apparent that their new system is out next year.

you might want to stop parading around "3rd place". you may regret it when your console of choice is sitting there.

When you factor in the 'time on the market', the 360 is already in 3rd.  PS3 and 360 are neck and neck, with a paltry less than 2 million separating them...and sony did it with one less year on the market.  A time to sale ratio, Sony is ahead, and it will continue to sell long into the Ps4's life cycle, which will easily place it at the 90 million + mark by the time its all said and done, comfortably in second place for the generation.  Hell, if the PS3 holds on as long as the PS2 did, I could see it matching the PS1 with 102 million. 

do I EXPECT that to happen?  Hell no, but it could given Sony's strategy, and its late life legs have shown that the system has a lot left in it, where the Xbox has what left?  Halo 4 and Gears of War Judgement?  both huge games, for sure, but nothing compared to the half dozen or more great games thePS3 has on the horizon in the next few years.  Playstation All-Stars, Sly Cooper 4, The Last guardian, Beyond Two Souls, God of War Ascension, The LAst of Us, and even stuff like Final Fantasy vsXIII, assuming that is still coming and is still exclusive.  

So yeah, it's not over till it's over.  Funny how things changed.  Man, I can't WAIT to laugh at all the sniveling Xbots who declared the PS3 a monumental failure when the generation fully ends and the 360 ends up in last.  

Funny thing is, I love my Xbox 360, I really do...but I hate its fans.  

if you don't know Xbox has what left then google it,right now you act like you know nothing about 360 in this holiday and next year

oh well,PS3 exclusive always automitic to be a "great" game when it announced

Toilet paper outsells PS3+PS2+PS1+PSP and PSV by 999gazillion?  So who cares?/Whats the point?

/CLOSE please. :)

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They discontinued the Ultra-Hand? Oh noes, Nintendo is doomed!!!!

You mean 3rd to that console which is barely at second place with a full one year head start?

i love it when everyone is hating on sony! its what sony are all about! like the sony of old!

add another 6 months to that for europe. ps3 was released march 2007 here in the UK and rest of european territories.

yeah if a non-sony fan say anything about sony it means he hates sony,and he should shut up or become sony fan(if he wanna say anything about sony)

wow,very nice,sounds like living in soviet russia or 60s china