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I suppose we'll never know, but the most important thing is that we're even getting the game on the 3DS. It was always the natural fit after the success of Tri on the Wii (well over 2mil sold now), so 4 on the 3DS made sense, moneyhatting or not.



 

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Chandler said:
Can you honestly imagine Nintendo spending millions just for a third party game which isn't even that big outside of Japan? Nintendo is way too stingy for moneyhatting games. I think capcom did go 3DS because a) They were assuming the 3DS would just like the DS dominate the handheld market and b) they can pretty much reuse the PSP engine. It's just a smart business decision, nothing more.

who said anything about millions?? Moneyhatting doesnt have to involve money, they could have been doing Capcom some favors on the side. IE lowering the cost and licensing to produce on their systems



F0X said:

Apparently since Capcom is supporting Nintendo systems, we must assume that Nintendo is moneyhatting.

Must be because nobody thinks Capcom is capable of making excellent business decisions on their own (anymore).

Well considering the evidence stacks up against them when it came to making decisions for the Wii can you blame people thinking Nintendo spent some money for once. to get a big frachise in Japan secured.



 

 

@oniyide No what I said does make sense were they suppose too just stop making those projects already started for the PS3 and 360. They chose the HD platforms like everyone else. That's who they bet on in the beginning why wouldn't they stick too that. Capcom switched because of the success of those platforms, so this time they are betting on Nintendo.



Degausser said:
phenom08 said:
@2000cc So in other words, you are waiting for a Monster Hunter Portable even though Monster Hunter 4 is portable game and not on home consoles. They could have been named that because they were released for portables while the main entry are released for home consoles. This time that wouldn't make any sense at all.


 It's hard to explain to people who arn't really fans of the series really. It is a bigger distinguishment then just having 'Portable' in the title. Moving the 'normal' series to handheld should have a bigger impact on thing though, but I dunno, all I can tell you is that after MH4 there wil be a MHP4, and it'll be a bigger deal in Japan, whatever console(s) it is on. 


@phenom08 Yeah if you have ever played Portable 3rd, or Freedom Unite (both final versions of their respective monster hunter games) they are vastly different to their comparative 'initial' Monster Hunter releases (eg MH 2 & MH tri) to the tune of A LOT of extra content (4 new weapons (on the previous 10), a much higher difficulty gradient, more monster and lands and a completely differnt setting in the case of portable 3rd from tri)

The thing with the 'portable' or 'freedom' series' is that they are seen as the complete versions of the games, If you play freedom unite on psp next to tri on the Wii, you will notice that even though Tri is MH3 while freedom unite is MH2 not only do 4 (of the most interesting) weapons get cut in the transition to Tri, but there is far less content in Tri and it is far easier (which is odd given that MH was originally a difficulty based game, like demons souls). Quite frankly Tri (and its portable version 3G on 3DS) are not even comparable to portable 3rd (the 'complete' version of MH3) on psp, and many long term monster hunter fans (myself inculded) were quite disappointed by the watering down of the series in Tri.

The portable series is the 'real' monster hunter for long term players, while the nintendo versions seem to be less intensive (but still tough in places, no disrespect as it is a hard game in parts, just nowhere near as many as other MH games) versions of MH to bring new people into the franchise.

but it is hard to explain to those who are not players of the series, I dont play MMO's, so this is a guess but an attempted similie would be something like saying the nintendo MH games are like someone with the original world of warcraft game only, while the comparison for freedom unite or Potable 3rd would be someone playing with every WOW expansion also. The additional content & extra difficulty of the likes of the 'portable' series makes them a different game to the basic nintendo editions that always predate them

&  2 million sales for tri is not that hot for an MH game, freedom unite & portable 3rd psp (listed as freedom 3) both more than doubled Tri's numbers (portable 3rd doing nearly 5 million even though never getting any release outside of Japan!)

@Degausser, thanks again, always great to see a fan on here



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phenom08 said:
@oniyide No what I said does make sense were they suppose too just stop making those projects already started for the PS3 and 360. They chose the HD platforms like everyone else. That's who they bet on in the beginning why wouldn't they stick too that. Capcom switched because of the success of those platforms, so this time they are betting on Nintendo.


I didnt mention HD consoles at all, so i dont know why your bringing those up, even though i agree with you on that point. Hell your one of the few Ninty fans that would admit that point, so more power to you. However even then SOny and MS were still moneyhatting, MS did it with GTA content, and they tried it with the entire JRPG sub genre. Sony did some crap behind the scences with Valve Id bet one of my balls on it.

I wouldnt go so far to say as they are betting on Ninty, not as a whole, Capcom as a company is not one to just back one company, that would be stupid, we dont even know what they have or if they even have anything significant in store for Wii U yet.



A small team could port over MH to the vita in a few weeks, People forget how friendly the system is to develop for, they could even half ass the port and it would still look better than the 3ds version, usually assets are better than what the system can handle and down graded to fit the handheld. So why not do it? It's an obvious money hat, because this would push vita system sales and guarantee a million copies sold. Once again capcom isn't making wise decisions.



Mmmfishtacos said:
A small team could port over MH to the vita in a few weeks, People forget how friendly the system is to develop for, they could even half ass the port and it would still look better than the 3ds version, usually assets are better than what the system can handle and down graded to fit the handheld. So why not do it? It's an obvious money hat, because this would push vita system sales and guarantee a million copies sold. Once again capcom isn't making wise decisions.

 

So putting it on 3DS isn't wise? I'd think it makes more sense to put it on a healthier platform. MH3G even managed to surpass their expectations.



Herolink7 said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
A small team could port over MH to the vita in a few weeks, People forget how friendly the system is to develop for, they could even half ass the port and it would still look better than the 3ds version, usually assets are better than what the system can handle and down graded to fit the handheld. So why not do it? It's an obvious money hat, because this would push vita system sales and guarantee a million copies sold. Once again capcom isn't making wise decisions.

 

So putting it on 3DS isn't wise? I'd think it makes more sense to put it on a healthier platform. MH3G even managed to surpass their expectations.

When did i say it wasn't wise, theres nothing wrong with the 3ds having one, but so should the vita. The dumb decision was not making it for both platforms.



@Oniyide Yea I didn't mean the WiiU so much. I meant they were heavily backing the 3DS because of the DS success. Honestly I see all the home consoles getting a good amount of support from Capcom next Gen. Yea only the dumb ninty fans dont understand why the Wii didnt recieve 3rd party support. Obviously hardware power and the gamecube getting its ass handed to it. Its only logical to bet on the PS2's successor. What gets under my skin is HD fans bashing the Wii for selling so much and receiving little support. But did we expect for them to change their minds mid Gen. I knew from the start the Wii would only lead to benefits in the future gens because the confidence in Ninty would finally return. And also im definitely not one of those ninty fans begging for multiplatformal releases. I could careless about anything beside CoD and Nintendo games. I wouldn't mind those 3rd party games and if they are multiplatformal then why not all 3? Monster Hunter has always been exclusive so the only reason Sony fans are saying this now is because it may not come at all.