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happydolphin on 29 July 2012
richardhutnik said:

Custom would be this: Start a thread specifically connected with that topic in the general section.  You could even label them.  If you decide to use one thread for multiple subjects, people will have a hard time finding anything in there, if your intent is to go by topic.

Anyhow, at this point, I started a more general one, per your request:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=145903

 

People are free to post Jesus, Man in there, if they like.

Okay, and I renamed mine "The Bible verse discussion thread". I'll direct people who want to talk about christian and bible culture in general to your thread.

Thanks for doing the right thing.



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Andrespetmonkey on 30 July 2012

 

How do you explain all the similarities Jesus shares with Gods/prophets from religions that pre-date christianity? (the implication being that his character is largely a compilation of characteristics of various Gods from various religions).

An example is Horus: "Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days."

Not really looking for debate, just wondering what the christian apologetic's answer is, it's one I've never heard.

edit: :S Just saw "verse" in the title, sorry.

 



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WiiBox3 on 30 July 2012
spurgeonryan said:
happydolphin said:
spurgeonryan said:
What happened to the dinosaurs and Unicorns?

Supper with my roomies, I"ll get to the dinos one. Unicorns Idk.


There are hints at Unicorns in the bible.Also hints in Mythology that the last of them died on the island of Atalantis. So I guess the next question is what do you think happened to Atlantis? Flood, or just rising oceans, or maybe even a volcanic explosion.


Unicorn is the word they chose to use in the King James Translation of the Bible. I'm not sure what Unicorn refered to at that time, but as of two hundred years ago, it had nothing to do with a horse.

Unicorn – An animal with one horn; the monoceros. this name is often applied to the rhinoceros.

(This 1828 dictionary can be accessed free online. Just go to Google.com and type in “Noah Webster 1828” and it will be one of the first links that pop up.)

Though later liguists did not believe this was a correct translation, so most modern translations say “wild bull” or “buffalo".



happydolphin on 30 July 2012
Andrespetmonkey said:

 

How do you explain all the similarities Jesus shares with Gods/prophets from religions that pre-date christianity? (the implication being that his character is largely a compilation of characteristics of various Gods from various religions).

An example is Horus: "Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days."

Not really looking for debate, just wondering what the christian apologetic's answer is, it's one I've never heard.

edit: :S Just saw "verse" in the title, sorry.

 

No, this is a good post here.

I know you haven't played mafia, but let's play a little bit of detective work.

There is one question you need to ask yourself, what could be the cause or intent of having the exact same profile as Christ? We know that Jesus himself was prophesized by the Jewish prophets, and was to be the lamb of God, ordained by Jehovah. How is it possible that Horus has the same profile? What could be the reason?

Why would it happen twice in history, or even if Horus is mythological, why would he be described the same as the much more historical _human_ Jesus.

Also, I would like some links to the description above, I am very interested in this matter.

To note, I see value in what Spurge said, but I want to look into it for myself.



richardhutnik on 30 July 2012
Andrespetmonkey said:

 

How do you explain all the similarities Jesus shares with Gods/prophets from religions that pre-date christianity? (the implication being that his character is largely a compilation of characteristics of various Gods from various religions).

An example is Horus: "Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days."

Not really looking for debate, just wondering what the christian apologetic's answer is, it's one I've never heard.

edit: :S Just saw "verse" in the title, sorry.

 

You hadn't found any Christian apologetic response to this?  Have you even bothered to try to use Google to look up any, or did you expect it to just show up in your email box?  I happened to Google and found a number of responses:

http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/Is_Jesus_Simply_a_Retelling_of_the_Horus_Myth

http://stupidevilbastard.com/2005/01/ending_the_myth_of_horus/

http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-one/#horus

 



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happydolphin on 30 July 2012
richardhutnik said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

 

How do you explain all the similarities Jesus shares with Gods/prophets from religions that pre-date christianity? (the implication being that his character is largely a compilation of characteristics of various Gods from various religions).

An example is Horus: "Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days."

Not really looking for debate, just wondering what the christian apologetic's answer is, it's one I've never heard.

edit: :S Just saw "verse" in the title, sorry.

 

You hadn't found any Christian apologetic response to this?  Have you even bothered to try to use Google to look up any, or did you expect it to just show up in your email box?  I happened to Google and found a number of responses:

http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/Is_Jesus_Simply_a_Retelling_of_the_Horus_Myth

http://stupidevilbastard.com/2005/01/ending_the_myth_of_horus/

http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-one/#horus

 

Lol!!

Claim: Horus was called “Way”, “the Truth the Light”, “Messiah”, “God's Anointed Son”, “Son of Man”, “Good Shepherd”, “Lamb of God”, “Word made flesh”, “Word of Truth”, "the KRST" or "Anointed One” 

Truth: None of these titles are in Egyptian history, but Horus IS called by several names you might expect for any god in mythology: “Great God”, “Chief of the Powers”, “Master of Heaven”, and “Avenger of His Father”. Horus was also not called “the Krst” because this word in Egyptian means "burial" (it wasn't a title at all).

Well, of course he was not named the Krst, because it's probably the only name Satan can't use in replacement of Jesus. Bahaha.



Player1x3 on 31 July 2012
Andrespetmonkey said:

 

How do you explain all the similarities Jesus shares with Gods/prophets from religions that pre-date christianity? (the implication being that his character is largely a compilation of characteristics of various Gods from various religions).

An example is Horus: "Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days."

Not really looking for debate, just wondering what the christian apologetic's answer is, it's one I've never heard.

edit: :S Just saw "verse" in the title, sorry.

 


http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-one/#horus



Player1x3 on 31 July 2012

Jesus was betrayed by a friend
Bible prophecy: Psalm 41:9
Prophecy written: About 1000 BC
Prophecy fulfilled: About 31 AD

In Psalm 41:9, King David wrote a prayer asking for mercy in his last days. In this prayer, which Christians acknowledge as being inspired by God, David wrote about a betrayal at the hand of a close friend with whom he had shared bread. This foreshadowed something that happened years later with Jesus. As explained in Matthew 26:47-50, Jesus was betrayed by Judas, one of the 12 apostles, shortly after Jesus and the apostles had shared bread during the Last Supper. Jesus was crucified by the Romans a short time later. - Copyright © George Konig, Ray Konig and 100Prophecies.org

Psalm 41:9:

Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me.




Player1x3 on 31 July 2012

Zechariah foreshadowed the betrayal of Jesus for 30 pieces of silver

Bible prophecy: Zechariah 11:12-13
Prophecy written: Between 520 and 518 BC
Prophecy fulfilled: About 31 AD

In Zechariah 11:4-17, the prophet speaks of a payment involving 30 pieces of silver and of a good shepherd whose service is brought to an end. This foreshadows an event that happened to Jesus about 500 years later. As explained in Matthew 26:15, Judas was paid 30 silver coins for his betrayal of Jesus. Judas told the Romans when and where they could arrest Jesus without being surrounded by a large crowd of Jesus' followers. As explained in Matthew 27:5-7, Judas later tossed the money into the Temple (the house of the Lord) and the money was used to buy a potter's field as a burial place for foreigners. - Copyright © George Konig, Ray Konig and 100Prophecies.org

Zechariah 11:12-13:

12 I told them, "If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it." So they paid me thirty pieces of silver.

13 And the LORD said to me, "Throw it to the potter"-the handsome price at which they priced me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the LORD to the potter.



Player1x3 on 31 July 2012

God's servant would die for our sins

Bible prophecy: Isaiah 53:4-6
Prophecy written: Between 701-681 BC
Prophecy fulfilled: About 31 AD

In Isaiah 53:4-6, prophet described a servant as being punished for the sins of others, and that others would be healed by the wounds of this person. As explained in the New Testament - such as in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John - Jesus was crucified for our sins, and he was sinless. Christians believe that this ultimate sacrifice redeemed us all from sin in the same way that lambs and other animals were once sacrificed as a symbolic way of cleansing people from sin. All of us can be accepted into the Kingdom of God, as though we were sinless, if we accept Jesus as our savior. Christians believe that we are healed through the wounds that Jesus suffered. - Copyright © George Konig, Ray Konig and 100Prophecies.org

Isaiah 53:4-6:

4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.

5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.

6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.