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Ajescent on 03 August 2012
kowenicki said:
Ajescent said:
okr said:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/03/london-2012-philip-hindes-crash-translation?newsfeed=true

Badminton => Asians (from suspicious countries which win too many medals in some people's opinions) => bad girls => "a shame for the Olympic spirit" => disqualified (rightfully)

Cycling => local heroes => good boys => "lost in translation" => "no rule broken" => no further inquiry planned

kinda hard to argue against this

Not really.

Too many peope who never watch cycling talking bollocks today in the media.

What the GB team did is oh so common.  Its in the rules, he doesnt need an excuse, he can just hold his hand up and the race is stopped and a restart takes place, so why would he manufacture some weird tale?   It actually happened this afternoon too with one of the Women teams (cant remember which country).  It happens all the time at almost every indoor cycling meet.

His team mate raised his hand to ask for a restart, why did he need to crash? why not just put your hand up?

I'm not accusing anyone of anything as I don't know the rules but still, you have to admit on face value it does sound very dodgy.



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Ajescent on 03 August 2012
kowenicki said:
Ajescent said:
kowenicki said:
Ajescent said:
okr said:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/03/london-2012-philip-hindes-crash-translation?newsfeed=true

Badminton => Asians (from suspicious countries which win too many medals in some people's opinions) => bad girls => "a shame for the Olympic spirit" => disqualified (rightfully)

Cycling => local heroes => good boys => "lost in translation" => "no rule broken" => no further inquiry planned

kinda hard to argue against this

Not really.

Too many peope who never watch cycling talking bollocks today in the media.

What the GB team did is oh so common.  Its in the rules, he doesnt need an excuse, he can just hold his hand up and the race is stopped and a restart takes place, so why would he manufacture some weird tale?   It actually happened this afternoon too with one of the Women teams (cant remember which country).  It happens all the time at almost every indoor cycling meet.

His team mate raised his hand to ask for a restart, why did he need to crash? why not just put your hand up?

I'm not accusing anyone of anything as I don't know the rules but still, you have to admit on face value it does sound very dodgy.

Only in the UK would we try to actually cause a problem for our own team.

He fell over because he fell over, those bikes and the way they are strapped to them is very restrictive.  There really is nothing in it

The UCI and IOC were puzzled at British journalsist even asking if there would be an enquiry, they didnt even understand why the queation was being asked.  There was never any doubt... except in the minds of our ridiculous press.

No denying it's a case of "did not do the research" for the journalists, but there's no harm in being fair. I.E if you are willing to cast an eye on the Asians (or as Okr puts it, "suspicious countries") you should be allowed to do the same to your own.

Again, I agree that they failed for not know the rules but I'm saying, their questions weren't as stupid as it could have been. Especially when someone openly says he fell on purpose.

p.s
Instead of falling on purpose, why not just raise your hand?



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Ajescent on 03 August 2012

More importantly, USA has taken the lead in the tables for the first time.



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TruckOSaurus on 03 August 2012
kowenicki said:
Ajescent said:

No denying it's a case of "did not do the research" for the journalists, but there's no harm in being fair. I.E if you are willing to cast an eye on the Asians (or as Okr puts it, "suspicious countries") you should be allowed to do the same to your own.

Again, I agree that they failed for not know the rules but I'm saying, their questions weren't as stupid as it could have been. Especially when someone openly says he fell on purpose.

p.s
Instead of falling on purpose, why not just raise your hand?

I dont think the british journalists have been that bad about the asian midshaps we have seen.  Its the US coaches runing around stirring things up.  I had no problem with the chinese swimmer really, and on reflection the banning of the badminton players was a ridiculous decision.  Would we ban a football team for playing for a draw or would we ban a swimmer taking their time and just about qualifying  to save themselves for an upcoming final.  Stupid decision.

What the badminton teams did was contrary to the Olympic spirit/ideal and they got what they deserved.

I don't know anything about football but why would a team play for a draw? Also, I imagine it would be way harder to prove they're playing bad intentionally.



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Conegamer on 03 August 2012

There's one more day in the 'pools tomorrow, before GB and China push forward, and USA and Korea go backwards...

We're nearly halfway, but there's a lot more excitement to come...



 

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okr on 03 August 2012
TruckOSaurus said:

What the badminton teams did was contrary to the Olympic spirit/ideal and they got what they deserved.

I don't know anything about football but why would a team play for a draw? Also, I imagine it would be way harder to prove they're playing bad intentionally.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--japan-s-women-s-soccer-team-plays-to-intentional-draw--fifa-clears-tactic.html



Ajescent on 03 August 2012
TruckOSaurus said:
kowenicki said:
Ajescent said:

No denying it's a case of "did not do the research" for the journalists, but there's no harm in being fair. I.E if you are willing to cast an eye on the Asians (or as Okr puts it, "suspicious countries") you should be allowed to do the same to your own.

Again, I agree that they failed for not know the rules but I'm saying, their questions weren't as stupid as it could have been. Especially when someone openly says he fell on purpose.

p.s
Instead of falling on purpose, why not just raise your hand?

I dont think the british journalists have been that bad about the asian midshaps we have seen.  Its the US coaches runing around stirring things up.  I had no problem with the chinese swimmer really, and on reflection the banning of the badminton players was a ridiculous decision.  Would we ban a football team for playing for a draw or would we ban a swimmer taking their time and just about qualifying  to save themselves for an upcoming final.  Stupid decision.

What the badminton teams did was contrary to the Olympic spirit/ideal and they got what they deserved.

I don't know anything about football but why would a team play for a draw? Also, I imagine it would be way harder to prove they're playing bad intentionally.

here's an example in football where a team will play for a draw instead of a win

Team A is incredibly weak, Team B is incredibly strong. They have to play each other twice and the scores of both matches are added together at the end to make up the final score.

Team A manages to beat team B by sheer luck 1-0 in the first match, they know they are not good enough to repeat it in match 2 so rather than play to win, they play to draw match 2 (0-0 so they win overall)



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okr on 03 August 2012

Here's the current medal count as it should be (if we count medals - which we all do, it's half of the fun - at least in my opinion every medal should count equally):

1 United States 21 10 12 43
2 China 20 13 9 42
3 Russia 3 12 8 23
4 Great Britain 8 6 8 22
5 Japan 2 8 11 21
6 Germany 5 9 6 20
7 France 8 5 6 19
8 South Korea 9 2 5 16
9 Australia 1 9 4 14
10 Italy 4 5 3 12

Looks much better than the official medal count for Russia, Japan and Australia.



Ajescent on 03 August 2012
okr said:

Here's the current medal count as it should be (if we count medals - which we all do, it's half of the fun - at least in my opinion every medal should count equally):

1 United States 21 10 12 43
2 China 20 13 9 42
3 Russia 3 12 8 23
4 Great Britain 8 6 8 22
5 Japan 2 8 11 21
6 Germany 5 9 6 20
7 France 8 5 6 19
8 South Korea 9 2 5 16
9 Australia 1 9 4 14
10 Italy 4 5 3 12

Looks much better than the official medal count for Russia, Japan and Australia.

medals counting equally defeats the purpose of distinguishing between gold, silver and bronze.



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Conegamer on 03 August 2012

You may say its right to count all medals equally, doesn't change the fact its wrong. The Olympic committee states that golds are counted first. Then silver and Bronze.

Oddly, it doesn't matter today as 1, 2 and 4 are in the same places anyway.



 

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