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Troll_Monster on 15 January 2008
starcraft said:
Troll_Monster said:
starcraft said:
Ive said it time and time again, Sony is ripping off consumers, especially in my country Australia. We have NO access to a BC model. The only model available is $AU260 overpriced based on exchange rates (and that is AFTER taking into account our GST) and at the very least $AU200 overpriced based on economies of scale as well.

Ive said time and time again. Give me BC and a fair price (one where they make the same profit/loss as in the US and Japan per unit after taking into account scale and taxes) which would be $AU500 or at the MOST $AU550 and I WILL buy a PS3.

And their blatant failure to try and alert consumers to the lack of BC after pushing it so hard for a year is pathetic.

Dude, gaming has and always be expensive in Australia, so live with it.

Also, it's just not Sony as you call it that's 'ripping' us off, it's Nintendo and Microsoft, just grab the American prices convert them to Aussie dollars and you'll see the same as what your complaing abough with Sony, here is an example:-

Wii $ 250US = $282.74AU but it acutally cost $400AU

 


Actually I can find a Wii for $AU346 at Big W, as Nintendo is allowing retailers to buy cheaper due to exchange rates, Sony apparently is not. So $250 plus exchange rate is $AU275 plus gst tax is $AU300ish which means we pay $AU46 for scale economies. With Sony, we pay $AU200 at least. I promise you, Sony is ripping Australians off like no other.


 yeah I've seen that as well, but I've also seen PS3 going for $687, same for 360. You just have to shop around, hell I've bought all my PS2 games, about 33 games,  for an average of 50 bucks all brand new.



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starcraft on 15 January 2008
coolestguyever said:
what a bunch of idiots! read the back of the box! Sony isn't hiding it, its in big print on the back of the box and its common knowledge...at least I thought.

 

Would this be the "big print" you are talking about.  They really went out of their way to highlight that didn't they?  Front of the box, different sized font, bright colour, PS2 logo and....er....wait....bugger. 



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jimbo on 15 January 2008

Lol! I love it when people say bugger.

That print doesn't really leap out at you either.



starcraft on 15 January 2008
Troll_Monster said:
starcraft said:
Troll_Monster said:
starcraft said:
Ive said it time and time again, Sony is ripping off consumers, especially in my country Australia. We have NO access to a BC model. The only model available is $AU260 overpriced based on exchange rates (and that is AFTER taking into account our GST) and at the very least $AU200 overpriced based on economies of scale as well.

Ive said time and time again. Give me BC and a fair price (one where they make the same profit/loss as in the US and Japan per unit after taking into account scale and taxes) which would be $AU500 or at the MOST $AU550 and I WILL buy a PS3.

And their blatant failure to try and alert consumers to the lack of BC after pushing it so hard for a year is pathetic.

Dude, gaming has and always be expensive in Australia, so live with it.

Also, it's just not Sony as you call it that's 'ripping' us off, it's Nintendo and Microsoft, just grab the American prices convert them to Aussie dollars and you'll see the same as what your complaing abough with Sony, here is an example:-

Wii $ 250US = $282.74AU but it acutally cost $400AU

 


Actually I can find a Wii for $AU346 at Big W, as Nintendo is allowing retailers to buy cheaper due to exchange rates, Sony apparently is not. So $250 plus exchange rate is $AU275 plus gst tax is $AU300ish which means we pay $AU46 for scale economies. With Sony, we pay $AU200 at least. I promise you, Sony is ripping Australians off like no other.


yeah I've seen that as well, but I've also seen PS3 going for $687, same for 360. You just have to shop around, hell I've bought all my PS2 games, about 33 games, for an average of 50 bucks all brand new.


Lol, my apologies. The difference is now $AU46 to $AU187.  It honestly feels like Sony is subsidising loses on the console in North America and Japan with profiteering in PAL.



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madskillz on 15 January 2008
thekitchensink said:
smallville said:
Sony should write front of the box in bold letters "THIS MODEL DOES NOT PLAY PS2 GAMES".

Instead of that small print they add on the back of the box.

From a PR standpoint yes, but from a business standpoint, it won't happen. You can be damn sure that PS3 sales numbers have been inflated at least 3-4% because of people who bought a 40-gig, tried to play a PS2 game on it, then immediately traded it back in for a 60-80gig model.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was Sony's mysterious reason for removing BC from this model, since we know removed the Emotion Engine only saved a few dollars.

 


Dang ... I wonder if that counts as two sales ... ioi, TheSource?  



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starcraft on 15 January 2008
madskillz said:
thekitchensink said:
smallville said:
Sony should write front of the box in bold letters "THIS MODEL DOES NOT PLAY PS2 GAMES".

Instead of that small print they add on the back of the box.

From a PR standpoint yes, but from a business standpoint, it won't happen. You can be damn sure that PS3 sales numbers have been inflated at least 3-4% because of people who bought a 40-gig, tried to play a PS2 game on it, then immediately traded it back in for a 60-80gig model.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was Sony's mysterious reason for removing BC from this model, since we know removed the Emotion Engine only saved a few dollars.

 


Dang ... I wonder if that counts as two sales ... ioi, TheSource?


 I lol'd!



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Troll_Monster on 15 January 2008
starcraft said:
Troll_Monster said:
starcraft said:
Troll_Monster said:
starcraft said:
Ive said it time and time again, Sony is ripping off consumers, especially in my country Australia. We have NO access to a BC model. The only model available is $AU260 overpriced based on exchange rates (and that is AFTER taking into account our GST) and at the very least $AU200 overpriced based on economies of scale as well.

Ive said time and time again. Give me BC and a fair price (one where they make the same profit/loss as in the US and Japan per unit after taking into account scale and taxes) which would be $AU500 or at the MOST $AU550 and I WILL buy a PS3.

And their blatant failure to try and alert consumers to the lack of BC after pushing it so hard for a year is pathetic.

Dude, gaming has and always be expensive in Australia, so live with it.

Also, it's just not Sony as you call it that's 'ripping' us off, it's Nintendo and Microsoft, just grab the American prices convert them to Aussie dollars and you'll see the same as what your complaing abough with Sony, here is an example:-

Wii $ 250US = $282.74AU but it acutally cost $400AU

 


Actually I can find a Wii for $AU346 at Big W, as Nintendo is allowing retailers to buy cheaper due to exchange rates, Sony apparently is not. So $250 plus exchange rate is $AU275 plus gst tax is $AU300ish which means we pay $AU46 for scale economies. With Sony, we pay $AU200 at least. I promise you, Sony is ripping Australians off like no other.


yeah I've seen that as well, but I've also seen PS3 going for $687, same for 360. You just have to shop around, hell I've bought all my PS2 games, about 33 games, for an average of 50 bucks all brand new.


Lol, my apologies. The difference is now $AU46 to $AU187. It honestly feels like Sony is subsidising loses on the console in North America and Japan with profiteering in PAL.

 

Gaming it's self has always been expensive, we aussies have never had it cheap so I've just gotten use to that fact, that's why I never buy a game at 100 bucks, I always look around and try and get it if not at 40 bucks at least no more than 60 bucks, and yeah I do play the waiting game for them to come down, but it's no biggy for me, cause if a game is good at 100 bucks, then it'll be good at 60 or 40 bucks.

 



madskillz on 15 January 2008
starcraft said:
coolestguyever said:
what a bunch of idiots! read the back of the box! Sony isn't hiding it, its in big print on the back of the box and its common knowledge...at least I thought.

Would this be the "big print" you are talking about. They really went out of their way to highlight that didn't they? Front of the box, different sized font, bright colour, PS2 logo and....er....wait....bugger.


LOL at folks who think people read boxes. Wow ... folks see Playstation - and even folks who don't know about this generation think Playstations can play older games.

I can't say I am shocked, and I blame Sony for not displaying 'PLAYS PS3 GAMES! BLU RAY MOVIES! DVD MOVIES! MUSIC CDs! WON'T PLAY PS2 GAMES!'

I am not the only person who cares about BC. I enjoy having the next-gen machine play older games. And while folks wait for more games, instead of buying expensive BR discs, they can just play their old PS1 and PS2 games on it.  



madskillz on 15 January 2008
Troll_Monster said:
starcraft said:
Troll_Monster said:
starcraft said:
Troll_Monster said:
starcraft said:
Ive said it time and time again, Sony is ripping off consumers, especially in my country Australia. We have NO access to a BC model. The only model available is $AU260 overpriced based on exchange rates (and that is AFTER taking into account our GST) and at the very least $AU200 overpriced based on economies of scale as well.

Ive said time and time again. Give me BC and a fair price (one where they make the same profit/loss as in the US and Japan per unit after taking into account scale and taxes) which would be $AU500 or at the MOST $AU550 and I WILL buy a PS3.

And their blatant failure to try and alert consumers to the lack of BC after pushing it so hard for a year is pathetic.

Dude, gaming has and always be expensive in Australia, so live with it.

Also, it's just not Sony as you call it that's 'ripping' us off, it's Nintendo and Microsoft, just grab the American prices convert them to Aussie dollars and you'll see the same as what your complaing abough with Sony, here is an example:-

Wii $ 250US = $282.74AU but it acutally cost $400AU

 


Actually I can find a Wii for $AU346 at Big W, as Nintendo is allowing retailers to buy cheaper due to exchange rates, Sony apparently is not. So $250 plus exchange rate is $AU275 plus gst tax is $AU300ish which means we pay $AU46 for scale economies. With Sony, we pay $AU200 at least. I promise you, Sony is ripping Australians off like no other.


yeah I've seen that as well, but I've also seen PS3 going for $687, same for 360. You just have to shop around, hell I've bought all my PS2 games, about 33 games, for an average of 50 bucks all brand new.


Lol, my apologies. The difference is now $AU46 to $AU187. It honestly feels like Sony is subsidising loses on the console in North America and Japan with profiteering in PAL.

 

Gaming it's self has always been expensive, we aussies have never had it cheap so I've just gotten use to that fact, that's why I never buy a game at 100 bucks, I always look around and try and get it if not at 40 bucks at least no more than 60 bucks, and yeah I do play the waiting game for them to come down, but it's no biggy for me, cause if a game is good at 100 bucks, then it'll be good at 60 or 40 bucks.

 


Dang, I barely pay anything for games, and when I do, I rarely pay full price (I usually get a discount of some type or have a gift card). I feel for you. The last time I paid full price for a game was ... dang, Vice City for my PS2 ...



Griffin on 15 January 2008

If people buy a 40gb PS3 and don't know it plays PS2 games then too bad, plus whatever happened to their PS2. I'm sure people who bought a PS3 own a PS2.