Wow. This thread got ridiculous pretty quickly.  I suppose it was inevitable.

There's so many nice, civil Nintendo fans on this forum that I enjoy reading the posts of.  I was getting the impression they were all like that.  I guess any fanbase has rabid fanboys.  Oh well.

"you haven't answered my question "what is so differentiating about those games?""

In the case of Kid Icarus, it's a matter of controls. There is no game that controls like Kid Icarus Uprising, which uses a unique twitch based combat system. Have you played the game? Because it's a bit difficult to describe. The game also features a unique weapon building (or breeding) system which is incredibly deep, and unique to anything in other games. The difficulty system, the fiend's cauldron, is another innovative mechanic that presents a different idea on how to change difficulty. The game also features a unique spin on multiplayer (light vs dark is a blend of traditional team battles and juggernauts mode) and so on. The game also has a comical vibe that helps it stand apart from most games.

Luigi's Mansion again is mechanically different than pretty much anything out there. The battle (or vacuuming) mechanics are different from pretty much any game out there, as is the overall theme of the game. Simply put, there aren't a whole lot of games that revolve around vacuuming ghosts.

"what is playstation home? isn't playstation home a minigame hub?"

Home has minigames for sure, but it always struck me as more of a second life kind of thing that really focuses on social interaction and personalization. It's actually something that is pretty unique that I didn't give Sony credit for. So far, it doesn't seem like Nintendo is going that route with Nintendo Land. I could be wrong, but Nintendoland doesn't seem like a virtual hang out of anykind. The theme park itself just seems like a glorified menu. The innovation comes in the form of the actual minigames.

"thats pretty ironic as i've heard people say the same thing of wii sports"

I think people say this because they're looking at Wii Sports from the hardcore gaming point of view. The beauty of Wii Sports is that it's something very simple and intuitive, and it struck a chord with casual gamers like nothing has before. It was something I was able to play with my 5 year old brother, my 50 year old mother, and everyone in between. Regardless, the point isn't necessarily how polished the products are. The point is, that the products in question are very different.

"so sony and microsoft didn't do the same when they released their own motion sports games?"

I'm just going to focus on Sony, and no, I don't think they did. The Playstation Move is fundamentally the same as the Wii mote, and only offers mild advantages over the Wii-mote +. Ping Pong was something we'd done in Wii Sports Resort, as was Frisbee golf. The differences in those games were mainly visual. Archery again was pretty much the same as Wii Sports Resort. Sword fighting is present in both. In this case, the Sony version is somewhat different in offering a more complex game, although I think the changes are mostly for the worse. Bocce is a random inclusion, and Beach Volleyball is unique. Overall, we have incredibly similar hardware, 3 identical minigames, 1 somewhat altered minigames, and two new ones. Your opinion may differ, but I don't think this is significant change or innovation. Based on the Move's failure, I think that the masses are in agreement.

And that also encapsulates how I feel about Playstation All-Stars. Based on what I've seen, it doesn't seem that this is a significant improvement over Smash Bros, and it doesn't seem to do anything very differently, aside from its KO system. Instead of taking the idea and making it their own, Sony just took the idea.

As for the question about innovating titles by SONY this generation. How about:

LittleBigPlanet
HeavyRain
Linger in Shadows
Flower
Demon's Souls
Eye of Judgement
EyePet
The Unfinished Swan
Wonderbook

I can go on, but then you need to list innovative things Nintendo created, although please note that motion fitness, motion sports and motion controlled minigame compilations were done by SONY on PS2 with the Eyetoy.

Unfortunately leaving this to only this generation doesn't allow us to use God of War. Did we have similar titles to God of War before it arrived?

so hold up, you know all the things they bring into the game (well not all since you haven't played the whole thing) and how it sets apart from anything in the genre...but you choose to downplay it because it's 'kinda' innovative? And you ask me to explain why you are contradicting yourself?  

smh

not gonna go on to the other areas that you did the same...cuz others are tearing you apart on those points already

Don't lie, just don't okay?! Sony only copies and those games you mention DO NOT EXIST you understand? They don't prove that Sony copies so they do not exist!

People always seem to forget that Japan Studio had a big part in crafting that game, and they're arguably the most genuine of Sony's studios (one of the earliest studios that Sony themselves set up).

I'd also list Locoroco and Patapon among the games you'd already put (a pretty good list too, btw :P)

exactly man..they did that new thing tho...but it's not that good so it doesn't count...oh they did new things on those games? I don't like em or have played them so it's not ok to use them as examples...

Both sides are doing this.

Yeah, even more incredible that it is forgotten considering the IP is owned by SONY.

But yes, I forgot Loco Roco, Patapon and even Soul Sacrifice seems to be bringing new things to the table. Home should be included as well.

If anything SONY should never be accused of not trying something new. They kill off their franchises and start something new every generation. Shit, look at Beyond and The Last of Us. Bringing new IPs at the end of a generation.

Just remembered, can't forget about Gravity Rush and it's gravity control mechanics. Escape Plan? How about MLB The Show series bringing in "Road to the Show" mode, a feature where you play out your entire career starting in single-A ball and only playing out your created characters appearances along the way?

I don't see any sony fans starting this butt hurt thread? A comment made in good humor was taken out of context to bash sony. It doesn't get more pathetic than that. The only thing happening in this thread is showing the hypocracy behind some of the really stupid statements made in this thread. I do see this double standard when approaching things from Nintendo fans more tho in VGC..may it be about graphics, innovation and corporate arrogance ..among other things.