I also believe SONY were first to bring free-to-play MMOs to consoles with DC Universe and Free Realms?
These things keep popping into my head, lol.
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Hey, who was first to do singing games and quiz games with mics and buzzers?
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LOL how did the op turn this into a troll comment? If anything they are giving praise to Ninty ffs.
| Euphoria14 said: Hey, who was first to do singing games and quiz games with mics and buzzers? |
Nintendo!
(I actually don't know, I think Rockband might have been first)
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M.U.G.E.N said:
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i refer to the notion of both groups calling on each others games non inovative/ eally inovative when neither do anything really outstanding at the end.
Demon souls is moslty fromsoft work aided with the funding and programer monkeys of of Sony of japan.
calling invizimals or wiifit innovative when their cocepts themselves are older than the psone.
ignoring the changes that mario or other Sony's ips has had along it's life time or overglorifing sequels that just improved execution rather then new big elements that really changed gameplay like infamous 2 or Mario galxy 2.
"B-but Nintendo fans..."
No. Both of you fell under this hipocrisy.
| JWeinCom said: "you haven't answered my question "what is so differentiating about those games?"" In the case of Kid Icarus, it's a matter of controls. There is no game that controls like Kid Icarus Uprising, which uses a unique twitch based combat system. Have you played the game? Because it's a bit difficult to describe. The game also features a unique weapon building (or breeding) system which is incredibly deep, and unique to anything in other games. The difficulty system, the fiend's cauldron, is another innovative mechanic that presents a different idea on how to change difficulty. The game also features a unique spin on multiplayer (light vs dark is a blend of traditional team battles and juggernauts mode) and so on. The game also has a comical vibe that helps it stand apart from most games. Luigi's Mansion again is mechanically different than pretty much anything out there. The battle (or vacuuming) mechanics are different from pretty much any game out there, as is the overall theme of the game. Simply put, there aren't a whole lot of games that revolve around vacuuming ghosts. "what is playstation home? isn't playstation home a minigame hub?" Home has minigames for sure, but it always struck me as more of a second life kind of thing that really focuses on social interaction and personalization. It's actually something that is pretty unique that I didn't give Sony credit for. So far, it doesn't seem like Nintendo is going that route with Nintendo Land. I could be wrong, but Nintendoland doesn't seem like a virtual hang out of anykind. The theme park itself just seems like a glorified menu. The innovation comes in the form of the actual minigames. "thats pretty ironic as i've heard people say the same thing of wii sports" I think people say this because they're looking at Wii Sports from the hardcore gaming point of view. The beauty of Wii Sports is that it's something very simple and intuitive, and it struck a chord with casual gamers like nothing has before. It was something I was able to play with my 5 year old brother, my 50 year old mother, and everyone in between. Regardless, the point isn't necessarily how polished the products are. The point is, that the products in question are very different. "so sony and microsoft didn't do the same when they released their own motion sports games?" I'm just going to focus on Sony, and no, I don't think they did. The Playstation Move is fundamentally the same as the Wii mote, and only offers mild advantages over the Wii-mote +. Ping Pong was something we'd done in Wii Sports Resort, as was Frisbee golf. The differences in those games were mainly visual. Archery again was pretty much the same as Wii Sports Resort. Sword fighting is present in both. In this case, the Sony version is somewhat different in offering a more complex game, although I think the changes are mostly for the worse. Bocce is a random inclusion, and Beach Volleyball is unique. Overall, we have incredibly similar hardware, 3 identical minigames, 1 somewhat altered minigames, and two new ones. Your opinion may differ, but I don't think this is significant change or innovation. Based on the Move's failure, I think that the masses are in agreement. And that also encapsulates how I feel about Playstation All-Stars. Based on what I've seen, it doesn't seem that this is a significant improvement over Smash Bros, and it doesn't seem to do anything very differently, aside from its KO system. Instead of taking the idea and making it their own, Sony just took the idea. |
so basically controls and vacuuming ghosts... so i guess the ugc creater, the varied powers some of which i have yet to see in any other games, the general theme of infamous etc don't make it unique though ok your opinion again which i'm sure others who've played infamous may disagree with
" Home has minigames for sure, but it always struck me as more of a second life kind of thing that really focuses on social interaction and personalization ..."
basically all you're really saying is that home is more fleshed out but regradless the point still remains that if one chooses to do so home can be used as a hub to possibly hundreds of mini games ( which i may be wrong in saying is what nintendo is planning to do )
" Regardless, the point isn't necessarily how polished the products are "
it isn't? so why say this "It was kind of a neat idea, but it wasn't fleshed out as well as it should have been, and the technology wasn't really there."
which is it?
its funny though i show you how people said the same for wii sports then you instantly change your point lol
finally personally i do believe that sports champions offered a significant improvement in terms of controls over wii sports but thats my opinion the same as you have yours
but regardless my point is that if you can say that nintendo took an idea and put their own spin on it then the same has to be said for sony and microsoft
Ajescent said:
Nintendo! (I actually don't know, I think Rockband might have been first) |
Singstar released in 2004.
Guitar Hero released in 2005 and Rock Band did microphones before Guitar Hero, but that didn't release until 2007.
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Deoz said:
i refer to the notion of both groups calling on each others games non inovative/ eally inovative when neither do anything really outstanding at the end. Demon souls is moslty fromsoft work aided with the funding and programer monkeys of of Sony of japan. calling invizimals or wiifit innovative when their cocepts themselves are older than the psone. ignoring the changes that mario or other Sony's ips has had along it's life time or overglorifing sequels that just improved execution rather then new big elements that really changed gameplay like infamous 2 or Mario galxy 2. "B-but Nintendo fans..." No. Both of you fell under this hipocrisy. |
Not gonna get into other games...others are already doing it
I haven't fallen into any form of hipocrisy at all. I have not said anything of the nintendo games yet now have I? I just pointed out he should apply the same standard across the board in his statement which he is failing miserably at. You should learn to read things better. I'm not glorifying anything.
oh and btw UGC IS a big addition and a big change for the series and genre. That's not glorifying..it's just how it is. It's not a bu bu ninty fans..it IS ninty fans..and I never said it's only them..just that on this site you see it more from them in those areas I mentioned. Again, learn to read better
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Euphoria14 said:
Singstar released in 2004. Guitar Hero released in 2005 and Rock Band did microphones before Guitar Hero, but that didn't release until 2007. |
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BasilZero said:
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From what I gather that title is more of an audio book where you listen and then at specific points use a controller to choose the next course of action.
Either way, if you have followed any of the "Nintendo created the world in 7 days" threads you would know that SEGA and the bringer of innovation (a.k.a. Dreamcast) do not count.
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