| pezus said:
No, the Steam sales are for almost all games. Arkham City - came out a few months ago: around $13. Deus Ex: HR - $7.5. Assassin's Creed: Revelations - $13. Crysis 2 - ~$11 and so on. |
These are not considered new or recent games, even Arkahm City. It's run its course and you will find it at the pawn shop for very cheap.
| pezus said:
Not recent? Pretty damn recent to me. And no, I can't find them at a pawn shop for cheap because we don't have much stuff like that here. You have to consider other places than North America here. Imagine the difference Steam makes for the poorer European countries, and the countries where tax screws them over if you buy retail games (Iceland, as an example) |
I know. I was talking for someone in the same geographical region as S.T.A.G.E. Of course for someone in Iceland would I encourage without a shadow of a doubt the steam way.
For me though, where I live, and for other people in the more populated areas where things aren't as expensive, there are alternatives. But I have to agree with stage that Crysis collection was quite the bargain.
We're talking from a thrifty to a thrifty, and in my opinion there were alternatives to the way he spent his money before, as I have had quite a few deals myself. So to me, these are not "recent" (e.g. expensive) as I, personally, could find them at a bargain easily.
Truth be told as a budget game horder if you wait a few months on console games you can get them at near the same prices(both new and used copies based on the situation) + they hold real world value(you can sell/trade/lend) + some shitbag cant hack into a DD companies servers and ban/delete your account(something I am worried about, but hasnt happened in mass to my knowledge).
A lot of the old PC games on steam sale can be had for the same price off of ebay or a fraction more, but you get a box/manual/ability to sell/trade/lend if need be. I still stick by my guns and feel that PC gaming is great but not cause of DD or price for that matter. Mods and indy(+the occasional exclusive, which a lot of indy games are) are really why I still love PC. So welcome to PC gaming OP theres a lot of good times to be had.
edit: I am a gamer in NA so I cant speak for outside but my point is you can have physical copies of games at or near DD prices, but I guess I am a old dog with old ways.
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BasilZero said:
Speaking of console systems and a response to some people saying about Steam console o.o, if Valve does make a system and Steam runs on it, I will buy it :) |
No.... I strongly diagree. Out of my DS and PSP game libraries I have 19 RPG's on my DS (13 not remakes of older RPG's) and I have 10 RPG's on my PSP (only 5 are new, and not remakes). DS is the RPG machine.
I hope Valve makes a system, steam is really awesome, MS and Sony just don't make deals on digital content as frequently.
P.S. Lost Odyssey.... to me it's at the same level, if not better, then Valkyria Chronicles and XenoBlade. It has a much better, and satisfying ending I'll tell you.
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Mohasus said:
That's because the games you are looking at aren't in a daily deal. Deus Ex may be 75% off in a few hours. |
That's true, but to be fair sometimes console games get crazy deals too. I mean Assassin's Creed revelations was being sold for $20 new at EB games last christmas (Boxing Day Deal in Canada), and well.... you could sell the hard the hard copy of the game now for that price, so it's basically free.
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| CDiablo said: Truth be told as a budget game horder if you wait a few months on console games you can get them at near the same prices(both new and used copies based on the situation) + they hold real world value(you can sell/trade/lend) + some shitbag cant hack into a DD companies servers and ban/delete your account(something I am worried about, but hasnt happened in mass to my knowledge). A lot of the old PC games on steam sale can be had for the same price off of ebay or a fraction more, but you get a box/manual/ability to sell/trade/lend if need be. I still stick by my guns and feel that PC gaming is great but not cause of DD or price for that matter. Mods and indy(+the occasional exclusive, which a lot of indy games are) are really why I still love PC. So welcome to PC gaming OP theres a lot of good times to be had. edit: I am a gamer in NA so I cant speak for outside but my point is you can have physical copies of games at or near DD prices, but I guess I am a old dog with old ways. |
Steam is good if you never game a franchise a try (e.g. FallOut) and want to suddenly purchase the whole franchise, or if you want to buy a game with heavy DLC content (Mass Effect).
However like you said, you can sell console games, and if you buy good, rare titles, they can actually go up in value over time and turn a profit, especially if you buy them discount. Sometimes there is even a crazy sale where you can buy the game for less then you can sell it on ebay.
Still, I think what you and I like is owning physical copies of the game. A cartridge/disk format that we can take with us anywhere instead of lugging a laptop of PC around. I really like seeing all my games on a shelf next to my tv.
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Assuming a given gamer owns any PC with a moderately decent and current GPU, I really don't see why they wouldn't have a Steam account even if they preferred to play on console.
As someone who's had a Steam account since early 2008 and a library of 110 titles, I still generally prefer to play on console for shorter sessions, but the library of games I've built up on my Steam account will pretty much go with me everywhere with whatever PC I choose to build in the future.
Media, contrary to what a lot of people think is a lot less transferable and unless you don't plan on moving ever they won't always go everywhere with you. I have close to 30 years worth of games stored in various places which are pretty useless if I don't have immediate access or I need to pick up an old console to play those old games if mine is lost or broken.
Personally, the thought of "displaying" the hundreds of games I've accumulated over the years (I don't sell or trade in games) along with all the consoles to play them on has about zero appeal.
The only bad thing about Steam seasonal sales (summer and winter) is you will build up a back catalog of games you will have no hope of being able to finish by the next sale. Mid week sales are also great.
Eventually, services like Steam will be the future of the majority of all gaming.
So does that mean console gamers are subsidising PC gamers?
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| BasilZero said:
No, you just havent played/owned majority of either system's RPGs. |
You guys are so off topic, but anyways you barely played FFIV on the DS and didn't enjoy what the DS version had to offer, so your example is bad.
If you go back to the RPG thread I created, we gave lists of features for both the PSP and the DS version, and the DS had the better script and the better added features and replayability.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=143771&page=1
Here are the posts that went over this before:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4597024
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4633329
Your way of judging an RPG isn't how others do, and really not representative of most peoples' opinions. You ignored the importance of an updated script (hugely important for the series' intricate plot), the importance of Augments and the New Game Plus.
"And iuno, I really enjoyed the remastered sound effects, animation in 2D, new colors/sprites, the inventory system getting a update."
Really...
Basically what you liked about the PSP version was the presentation, yet I personally much preferred the 3D graphics even if they were PS level, the colors were good and respected the game's original color scheme. Above and beyond that, the DS version was a better product for a FFIV fan.
I'd prefer if you stopped talking like your word was the most unshakeable thing there was and you nuanced your posts with a bit of give and take personally.
| BasilZero said:
For a old Nostalgic gamer, the PSP version is much better simply because I'm pretty sure majority of FFIV players rather have a visual enhanced 2D form of the game, if you enjoyed blocky 3D Semi PSX graphics sure I guess. Every person I've talked to who had played and owned both versions actually liked the 2D remake over the 3D remake (what platforms it was on didnt matter). Your last sentence, I've had more experience with RPGs than most people, I'm pretty sure my word is better than yours, but I do admit, there's still a couple of RPGs out there that I have yet to play and that others (who may of played more than me) have more experience than me on it. The games I listed above were all the RPGs I played on both systems. --------------------------------------- -------------------------- P.S. I would prefer if you dont quote me again and if you do, not even gonna bother replying to you on this post or any other post, the fact that you tried trolling me on my wall and now this, simply unacceptable. You're just full of bias'd hatred against non-nintendo systems and when someone states a critical opinion over a game/hardware of Nintendo origin, you simply jump the gun and defend it as if its God's Gift on Earth. |
This is not even worth it.
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