BasilZero said:
Michael-5 said:
Realistically....I wouldn't use half the games on either consoles list to argue which system had btter RPG's. Of the 50 odd games per console, I would argue that a good third of them are not worth playing, and probably another 3rd won't be your or my type of game. This is kind of why I ended up with 40 odd RPG's combined for both handhelds.
I mean FFIV was also released on the GBA, and the quality is almost the same as the PSP version, minus the screen size. Yes you get after years on PSP, but that was originally a Wii-ware expansion was it not? You don't need a PSP for the full FFIV experience.
A. FFIV can be played on other systems in the same was as it's playable on PSP, however wat about Front Mission? It's not one of Square enix's best selling franchises, but I'll tell you t's my favorite franchise from them, and Front Mission DS is the only version of Front Mission which offers both USC an OCU sides of the games main story (Well the Japan only PS1 version also does this, but we don' get that version).
Either way it's a matter of opinion of which system is the RPG system, it's close though, and on a straight number comparision DS has more. Still if we're arguing what ideal system combination gives the complete experience, I think i's fair to say that you should get both a PSP and a DS. PSP for Valkyria Chronicles, Jeanne d'Arc, and some great remakes, DS for Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and for the other great remakes.
No point squabbling, you and I have both systems, just opposite impressions. Any recomendations? I've been hearing a lot about Etrain Odyssey, is it a franchise worth getting into? I only have time to beat about 4-6 JRPG's on the handheld a year and I have about a dozen I still need to work on before I get a 3DS. Just go Breath of Fire 3 for PSP last week, what luck finding it at the local store.
If you haven't had as good of an experience on DS as you had on PSP, I would strongly suggest playing all the bolded games that you missed. I'm really surprised you missed some of those big DS games considering Fire Emblem and Front Mission play a lot like Final Fantasy Tactics (but are better).
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Before I post/quote on this post @ moderators - Dont look at this as a argument/spam/offtopic(ok its offtopic but..), it'll be overwhelming to post it on his wall xD. By no means is this a troll/flame post, its positive.
I'll go by the paragraphs in the above quote.
1st - Eh it depends on taste I believe, I remember playing such a simple looking RPG dungeon crawler on the NDS called "From the Abyss", even though its not as good looking or plays as well as recent RPGs, it was pretty fun and addictive. Same with the PSP games such as Astonishia Story/Legend of Heroes.
2nd - Final Fantasy IV on the GBA and the PSP versions are completely different in terms of graphic style overall, in both animation and in the art.
 
^ First is from GBA and the second is from PSP.
The animation speed/delay is sped up a bit compared to the GBA/SNES/PSX versions just like the Anniversary editions of FFI & FFII are faster than the PSX and GBA remakes. The PSP version is the same as the GBA version in terms of features (i.e. new dungeon, items, etc), but it also includes the Auto Battle feature in battle which makes it easier to grind.
Yeah screen size doesnt affect me at all, but it is a plus for bigger screen.
3rd - I didnt get into front mission that much, probably because I was too young to understand RPGs that much back than, I remember playing it around the early 2000s for the SNES version. I'll give it a try again! Is the NDS version a remake?
4th - Eterian Odyssey is a pretty good series, I only got to play a little bit of it however, I am planning to play (and possibly record) since the series looks promising enough and is being expanded as the next big RPG of the generation. Also have fun with Breath of Fire 3, its really good :)
Which RPGs have you played/own on the PSP/NDS, is it on your list? I'll recommend some good ones (ones you didnt play but I did).
5th- I did play Jeanne D'Arc, and loved it, I knew I forgot to add a game on the list ;p, I also already had added Legend of Heroes one you mentioned in the list xD.
Pokemon Conquest, I plan to record it around October or November when I get Pokemon White 2 for my YT channel. I never got into the Fire Emblem series, but I will, there's so many games from the series that I have to play ;p
I'll check out the rest of the games you mentioned.
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Yea, this is off topic, but..... no one else is allowed to be involved. LOL. It'' a good debate.
1. I agree, 100%. Also I don't think most JRPG gamers are as focused on graphics as other gamers. It's the game that's important. Example, I beat Chrono Trigger in the PS2 era (never played it as a kid), and now it's basicall my favorite RPG, despite the crap graphics for the time.
2. FFIV for PSP is better then GBA, but the core game is really the same. I wouldn't tell people who own a DS/Wii to buy a PSP for FFIV when the GBA version is the same game, minus some polishing. I just wanted to argue that that FFIV experience can be had at near the same quality elsewhere, and it's an example of why ports/remakes should be mentioned on the side when making an RPG and/or exclusive list.
3. The NDS version is a remake of the Japan only SNES Front Mission. It's the first game in the franchise, and what makes the DS version so great is that it includes a 15 hour expansion (USC Story) which wasn't included in the original game. However if you're going to give Front Mission a try, I would recommend starting with Front Mission 4 for PS2. FM1 is a really old game, and it shows. If you're not a fan of strategy RPG's like Final Fantasy Tactics, you won't like this franchise, and the PS2 version is prettier, easier, and has a deeper story (mainly because PS2 is more capale of telling a story then SNES with cutscenes and disk space). The gameplay in FM1 is dated, so you have to really have a taste for classic RPG's to enjoy it.
4. I own most RPG's from Nintendo and Square Enix, including all the Final Fantasy's, Dragon Quests, Pokemon, etc. For DS I also have DBZ, Radiant Historia, Suikoden, Infinite Space, and I'm looking into patches for Tales of Innocence for DS so I can import a copy. For PSP I have all the Square enix games which I am interested in, plus Breath of Fire 3, Star Oceans, Valkyria Chronicles 2 (which I really like), Jeanne D'Ark, Tales of the World, Trails in the Sky, and a few more.
That said, I really hate Monster Hunter, don't really like Disgaea, and I'm not a fan of persona. I love PS1/SNES era RPG's and those which are similar to them, so that's probably why I hate The World Ends With You and Persona. Too modern.
Is Etrain Odyssey one of the RPG's with a random dungeon generator?
5. I strongly recommend Fire Emblem over any other franchise on that list. It's my favorite handheld RPG franchise, and the level of challenge, depth/length of story, amount of content, depth of characters, gameplay and overall design I also find perfect for the handheld. The DS games are not as good as the GBA iterations, but this is still a really good franchise. I'm actually putting off buying a 3DS until they make a special edition Fire Emblem 3DS, so I can buy it. The Wii/GCN versions are alright, but when you play these games on consoles they are kind of underwhelming because the gamecube and Wii are capable of so much more.
