Yep after seeing my friends Steam summer sale account, I am switching to PC next gen for sure.

[Michael-5]

BasilZero said:

Michael-5 said:

Yea, this is off topic, but..... no one else is allowed to be involved. LOL. It'' a good debate.

1. I agree, 100%. Also I don't think most JRPG gamers are as focused on graphics as other gamers. It's the game that's important. Example, I beat Chrono Trigger in the PS2 era (never played it as a kid), and now it's basicall my favorite RPG, despite the crap graphics for the time.

2. FFIV for PSP is better then GBA, but the core game is really the same. I wouldn't tell people who own a DS/Wii to buy a PSP for FFIV when the GBA version is the same game, minus some polishing. I just wanted to argue that that FFIV experience can be had at near the same quality elsewhere, and it's an example of why ports/remakes should be mentioned on the side when making an RPG and/or exclusive list.

3. The NDS version is a remake of the Japan only SNES Front Mission. It's the first game in the franchise, and what makes the DS version so great is that it includes a 15 hour expansion (USC Story) which wasn't included in the original game. However if you're going to give Front Mission a try, I would recommend starting with Front Mission 4 for PS2. FM1 is a really old game, and it shows. If you're not a fan of strategy RPG's like Final Fantasy Tactics, you won't like this franchise, and the PS2 version is prettier, easier, and has a deeper story (mainly because PS2 is more capale of telling a story then SNES with cutscenes and disk space). The gameplay in FM1 is dated, so you have to really have a taste for classic RPG's to enjoy it.

4. I own most RPG's from Nintendo and Square Enix, including all the Final Fantasy's, Dragon Quests, Pokemon, etc. For DS I also have DBZ, Radiant Historia, Suikoden, Infinite Space, and I'm looking into patches for Tales of Innocence for DS so I can import a copy. For PSP I have all the Square enix games which I am interested in, plus Breath of Fire 3, Star Oceans, Valkyria Chronicles 2 (which I really like), Jeanne D'Ark, Tales of the World, Trails in the Sky, and a few more.

That said, I really hate Monster Hunter, don't really like Disgaea, and I'm not a fan of persona. I love PS1/SNES era RPG's and those which are similar to them, so that's probably why I hate The World Ends With You and Persona. Too modern.

Is Etrain Odyssey one of the RPG's with a random dungeon generator?

5. I strongly recommend Fire Emblem over any other franchise on that list. It's my favorite handheld RPG franchise, and the level of challenge, depth/length of story, amount of content, depth of characters, gameplay and overall design I also find perfect for the handheld. The DS games are not as good as the GBA iterations, but this is still a really good franchise. I'm actually putting off buying a 3DS until they make a special edition Fire Emblem 3DS, so I can buy it. The Wii/GCN versions are alright, but when you play these games on consoles they are kind of underwhelming because the gamecube and Wii are capable of so much more.

Hehe, not much of a debate when we agree on majority of the things xD! (Besides we've given life to the thread LOL)

1. Heh! I did the same, I played CT around early 2000s, so far from the first time I played it which was back in 2002 or somewhere around it, I must of beaten the game at least 5 times. I also did a playthrough collection on YouTube (with ALL of the endings)

Storyline: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4E4B3F0395DBEBEB
Boss Battles: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL066BA4A526DB62AB

2. Gotta agree with that point, you are right, but I guess that is also why SE decided to add that Prologue and a remake of the After Years, if it was just FFIV, I wouldnt suggest it either unless if they were a huge FF fan like me ;p.

3. I dont mind playing classic retro RPGs as long as the gameplay isnt as badly orchestrated as FFI NES, which I hated xD! I'll give Front Mission a second try, and I do love Strategy RPGs like FFTactics *_*!

4. The games I highly recommend you should try out for each system are:

PSP
-Tales of Eternia (incase you didnt get to play it)
-Brave Story New Traveler (I personally liked it although the storyline might seem a bit weak at first, its a one of a kind rare RPG and the quality in other aspects are pretty good for a RPG of its caliber)
-Lunar Silver Star Harmony (Although you could get other versions of it on the Sega CD, GameBoy Advance and the PSX).
-The YS Series (Ys Seven and Ys The Ark of Naphitsim especially)
-Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together (Incase you missed it, another good Strategy RPG)
-Riviera Promised Land (Although you can also get the GBA version)

NDS
-Etrian Odyssey (All 3 NDS games)
-Lufia Curse of the Sinistrals (Although the gameplay is different and I rather recommend you try out the SNES version which is called Lufia Rise of the Sinistrals - NDS Version is like RPG-Action while the SNES was turned based RPG)
-Rhapsody A Musical Adventure (Like Lufia, the NDS version's gameplay is completely different, turned based on NDS, Strategy/RPG for the PSX version).
-Children of Mana (yet another good game incase you didnt get it)
-Luminous Arc (All 3 of them, they are Strategy RPGs)

Oh hey! I hate Monster Hunter as well xD! Yeah not a big fan of modern style RPGs, but over the recent years I have gotten used to them.

5. I'll check it out for sure! I'm also holding out on the 3DS , until they make a new Pokemon game or the remakes of the third gen ;p

1. Yea I think I beat it around the same time as you, and yea I beat it multiple times too.

2. FFIV for PSP is still definatly a game to pick up on PSP, especially for those who haven't played it, I own a copy for PSP lol.

3. Front Mission 1 is fun, and it's a good level of challenging. However, even for me, I have trouble playing the game for more then 3 hours at a time. It's really old school.

4. All those games you recommended, I have looked into, and I own Tactics Ogre. Is Tales of Eternia a lot like Phantasia, because I really didn't like that SNES/GBA iteration. Now that I know PSP is region free (My Breath of Fire 3 is PAL, there is no NTSC version according to Wikipedia) I'll look into it. Never heard of Rhapsody, might get that for PS1 instead.

Children of Mana, lol I still have to play Sword of Mana. I heard the Mana franchise is hit and miss, some great, some not so much.

I've heard a lot about Lufia and Lunar, I think I might like them, but I dunno if I have the time to get to them. I still haven't beaten any of my DS Dragon Quest games, and right now Infinite Space, Pokemon Conquest, Valkyria Chronicles 2, and soon Pokemon B/W 2 take priority, then Breath of Fire 3 and.... by the time I get to these games, 3DS and PSV will have a srong RPG foundation for me to tackle lol. I think I need to make a sacrifice with these and only get them if I find them at a garage sale or the gamestore for dirt cheap.

5. I think you'll like Fire Embelm. Give the GBA games a try first before you judge the franchise, they are the best. Also if you haven't played Golden Sun for GBA (not DS) I strongly reccomend it. It's much, much better.