Why do people always bring up Nintendo being childish and for kids? Mario & Zelda games are far more mature gameplay wise than COD, Uncharted & Gears etc just because it lacks guns and has gameplay doesn't make it childish. And also what difference does it make if its rated M or not?

I can tell that this isn't going to end well. Many consumers actually don't know what they want, so it's hard to ask them for it.

LOL, wat.

Shhh! We musn't desturb their talk about Nintendo. We can only observe.

Hardware parity and 3rd party software parity.

In other words: make a Nintendo "triplet."

In practice though, I buy their hardware anyway for the same reason most people buy Nintendo hardware: to play Nintendo games.

The Wii just made me realize that since Sony became my default platform dating back to the PS1, my interest in Nintendo franchises has continually drifted considering the only two remaining franchises I really look forward to playing are Metroid and Zelda. Considering that the last Zelda game I marathoned was Ocarina of Time and the last Metroid game I actually finished was Super Metroid, I do find myself asking why I'm still buying the games.

Nintendo really hasn't been the go-to platform for third party games in my personal experience since the SNES.

I said mature gameplay wise, not story or violence. As in not doing QTE and cutscenes every 5 mins. I play COD and Mass Effect. Hell Mass Effect is one of my favourite series, but Nintendo games are all about gameplay, which id the most important element of a game surely?

I have to disagree with you there.  It's rated M because the content is too graphic or disturbing (things like vulgar language, nudity, gore, blood, violence).  That doesn't actually make the game mature, or the player mature.  Maturity is a really odd word, though because it's hard to really say what makes something "mature" in this sense.  When I see people use it in terms of gaming, it looks like something of pride rather than of preference.  

If you don't like games that are too cartoony, that doesn't mean you like mature games or you are mature.  You have a different taste in games, and that's fine.  Don't bash other people because of it, though.  

Thats what I was trying to say. Guess it didn't come over that way!

Requiring that it "does not have any shovelware", "has no Nintendo-made games that use waggle controls or "gimmicks", or that appeal to a younger crowd", has "no more kiddie games need to come out on the system: 2D kirby, 2D Mario", or has "no more quirky IPs need to release on the platform: example Pikmin" are all childish reasons and anybody that uses them is adolescent. If you don't like those games, don't buy them. If you're whining about seeing them available, then your only possible problem could be worrying about your image, at which I say, really? You're scared about what your videogame console makes you look like, as opposed to a potentially different console?