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mike_intellivision on 20 June 2012
Darth Tigris said:
mike_intellivision said:

Anecdotal evidence can be right-on or can be misleading. That being said, the Pro version has the potential to be a major win for business since it offers tablet conveience and PC functionality. Come up with a way (that is easy and affordable) to output video to projectors for presentations and I will lobby my boss to replace my iPad.

The real issues come down to price and features for business since that will be what eventually drives sales.

It has an HDMI-out port.  Will that do?

While the standard is the monitor cable, HDMI should be fine on some projectors and TV sets. A lot easier than an iPad. This has me really thinking for work.

 



      


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Mistershine on 20 June 2012
mike_intellivision said:
Darth Tigris said:
mike_intellivision said:

Anecdotal evidence can be right-on or can be misleading. That being said, the Pro version has the potential to be a major win for business since it offers tablet conveience and PC functionality. Come up with a way (that is easy and affordable) to output video to projectors for presentations and I will lobby my boss to replace my iPad.

The real issues come down to price and features for business since that will be what eventually drives sales.

It has an HDMI-out port.  Will that do?

While the standard is the monitor cable, HDMI should be fine on some projectors and TV sets. A lot easier than an iPad. This has me really thinking for work.

 


What about connecting to a network projector,if you have them.



Slimebeast on 20 June 2012
theprof00 said:

Looks sweet, but that name... urgh

Hey guys, just chillin here with my surface.

Not much, just on my surface.

Hey is that the new surface?

I need to get a surface.

 

Congrats MS, you just named yourself the Microsoft iPad, because that's what most people will call it.

Yes, it's a horrible name.

No "oomph", not punchy enough. Doesn't stand out. Slightly too cumbersome to pronounce and write. And simply it doesn't sound cool. It sounds weak, old-fashioned and uncool.

MS still don't seem to get that they have a huge brand image problem. They're associated with the ugly geek that always knows best but is hiding in his cellar when the cool guys are throwing a party.



sethnintendo on 20 June 2012
thranx said:
I may have to switch from verizon to at and t if they dont announce some windows 8 phones. Getting sick of waiting.


Clark Howard announced a few days back that Verizon is about to offer the most gimp data plans ever.  I'd dump Verizon ASAP but I don't think AT&T would be the best replacement.  Pretty much you are fucked if you want good unlimited data plans in the USA with decent coverage.



mike_intellivision on 20 June 2012
Mistershine said:
mike_intellivision said:
Darth Tigris said:
mike_intellivision said:

Anecdotal evidence can be right-on or can be misleading. That being said, the Pro version has the potential to be a major win for business since it offers tablet conveience and PC functionality. Come up with a way (that is easy and affordable) to output video to projectors for presentations and I will lobby my boss to replace my iPad.

The real issues come down to price and features for business since that will be what eventually drives sales.

It has an HDMI-out port.  Will that do?

While the standard is the monitor cable, HDMI should be fine on some projectors and TV sets. A lot easier than an iPad. This has me really thinking for work.

 


What about connecting to a network projector,if you have them.

I am thinking of work "dog and pony" show where you are bringing equipment into a place.

It may require other equipment upgrades, but nothing that would be out of the ordinary.



      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492

NNID: Mike_INTV
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Turkish on 20 June 2012
badgenome said:
So if Apple falls off a cliff like Sony did, Microsoft may catch them?


Exactly lol



dj2one on 20 June 2012

I think Apple is ripe the the beating now, they have been releasing minor upgrades on hardware for years, I think the consumer is starting to catch on and look at other options and its up the the competitors to take advantage of that.



ZaneWane on 22 July 2012

lot truth in this article



NintendoPie on 22 July 2012

OK. But they'll really have to work for it!

(I love Badgenome's comment. xD)



makingmusic476 on 23 July 2012
mike_intellivision said:
Several factors will go into to whether or not this is successful.

1. Adoption of Windows 8. Businesses which are just now getting to speed on Win7 may not want to move so quickly to an OS that has greater user restrictions and may require new software acquisition.

2. Integration with other devices. There are a lot of iPhones and Android phones as well as many legacy Blackberrys. There are not a lot of Windows smart phones. If you need a Windows 8 smart phone to really make this system work well, people will pass.

3. Value. At some point, something that is priced like a computer but does not fully work like a computer will be replaced by a computer. A tablet can do some things -- but not all things -- that a laptop can do. But it costs about the same. Admittedly, it is lighter and "cooler" but if I have any real work, I know which one I take. The included keyboard and ability to run real software, if it actually happens and does not cause the price to be above what the market will bear, could be a big plus for Microsoft. If it does not and ends up running shallow versions of software, then there is a problem.

Mike from Morgantown


I think Microsoft is kinda moving above the ecosystem battle with the Surface tablet.

For example, I was set on getting an Android tablet because I've become fully inundated in Google's ecosystem, but the higher end Windows tablet is essentially a Windows PC, just with a detachable keyboard and a touchscreen, so buying one of those would allow me to kill two birds with one stone (PC+tablet) instead of merely buying an additional tablet to work between my PC and phone.  And I can easily make use of Google's ecosystem on a fully functional Windows machine.

Of course, it would be far more costly than Google's Nexus 7 offering.  But it's an entirely different kettle of fish compared to a Windows phone or something, which would probably only be useful if I was heavily invested in Microsoft's Live services as opposed to Google's software suite.

Tablets have always been somewhat competitive with laptops, but the Surface essentially turns them into the same market, and Microsoft is poised to go after both.  Any person torn between a laptop, netbook, or tablet now has a very obvious solution that'll fulfill the role of all three.