FJ-Warez said:
Wasn't the same for both versions??? Is not the default setting in both versions??? |
should be... I have no idea what his point was either i jsut restated what he said so you guys could understand.
FJ-Warez said:
Wasn't the same for both versions??? Is not the default setting in both versions??? |
should be... I have no idea what his point was either i jsut restated what he said so you guys could understand.
@leo-j:
if the ps3 can LOOK BETTER than dont make the comparison with ps3 limited, and 360 not.
BUT THAT'S THE THING! The 360 is limited exactly like the PS3! The 360 in component mode can't take advantage of Full Range RGB and even with HDMI it can't use superwhite since the Elite only has HDMI 1.2 and superwhite was added with HDMI 1.3. You are stating that you think the PS3 is limited and the 360 isn't but you are flat out WRONG! Please show me any evidence, hell whip up a geocities page, that states the 360 can magically use Full Range RGB with component cables and the PS3 can't.
ssj12 said:
your not finding it becasue the way I'm saying isnt A. practical B. Easy to Do C. Cheap (need second monitor) D. theres easier way to record using components. My way I possible as there is no logical way it wouldnt work but its jsut a major pain in the ass to setup correctly to work let alone need a PC that can handle it. |
I'm skeptical as to whether it would work because if it did, what would stop people from capturing full Blu-ray movies through the same method?
It may be expensive but somebody out there would be doing it if it was possible, especially for Blu-ray.
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leo-j said: @rocketpig No because the outcome is fanboyish, if the ps3 can LOOK BETTER than dont make the comparison with ps3 limited, and 360 not. |
They are both limited to an identical degree. The 360 can use an HDMI port just as easily as a PS3 and I have to believe it would get a similar level of graphical improvement. Can you explain why using it would only improve the visuals on the PS3?
leo-j said:
Then why make a stupid comparison at all? If I have HDMI and own both a 360 and ps3 I want to know which version has better graphics, if there bull $hit vids shows the 360 looking better I would buy the 360 version. |
They are making a comparison video using the SAME OUTPUT TYPE. Which is COMPONENT. For BOTH SYSTEMS. To COMPARE with each other.
Component doesn't have "limits" on RGB output, there are no "limited" or "full" settings to be tweaked. It's really not hard to understand.
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Man, this thread has given me whole new perspectives on people, especially SSJ.
Really interesting debate on what is possible and what is right and SSJ and quite a few others are doing a really nice job at reasoned and informed debate. Quite impressive really.
azrm2k said:
Misunderstanding here. I never meant to call you an idiot. I said your notion was idiotic. I have plenty of stupid ideas all the time but I don't consider myself an idiot. Sorry if you got upset. |
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ssj12 said:
actually you can.. Gametrailers is just a bunch of retards working the tech side.
FRAPS WTF!!! |
Wouldn't you need to hook this up via a computer? Wouldn't it need to be compatable with HDCP?
I'd assume this doesn't work, simply because it would make Blu Ray movies recordable and shareable with no hacks necessary, but maybe I'm wrong.
Edit: looks like Rocketpig got to all this first. As has been said, even if this did work, it's incredibly impractical. Such a hookup would be unfair. What isn't unfair -- and is in fact entirely appropriate -- is using factory default settings for both machines. No fuss, no copyright problems.
Which reminds me: another way to do this is to use a debug PS3, not a retail one. Which would also be sillyy. Gametrailers is using default retail specs, and it would actually be inappopriate to go way out of their way to make the PS3 look better (by actually using a non-commercial PS3 that a normal consumer could not possibly own, or to hook a PS3 up through a PC and use two displays and so forth in such a complicated, messy scheme) than to simply allow both to stand on their own.
Again, still no answer for this: what's so wrong about using factory standard settings for both systems? That seems like a completely balanced and appropriate way to display these games. What Leo-J is suggesting -- that Gametrailers go out of their way to make the PS3 look as good as possible -- that is what would be biased.
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iclim4 said:
the xbox360 version looks fine but the ps3 version looks washed out.
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Is your argument "The PS3 version looks like shit therefore the comparison is biased"?
Because that seems to be what it is from the above post and you are getting things backward; it should be: are they using the same standard fo comparing the 360 and PS3 version: Yes (both Component so no UltraWhite or FullRGB...), hten the comparison is fair.
Then you can ask: Is the PS3 version looking like shit?
And the answer to that question is the conclusion but is shouldn't be the premise of whther the comparison is biased or not.
Now you can keep complaining that the PS3 looks better than the 360 over HDMI and you probably are right but if GT can't compare them that is because of the big Hollywood studios's forcing HDCP for content going through HDMI cables and guess what company happens toalso be a big hollywood studio? That's right, Sony is; therefore it's their own damn fault if GT can't compare the PS3 to the 360 in the best possible condition (not that they care about GT comparison more than HDCP but whatever).
So stop bitching at GT for being unable to do what Sony chose to prevent them and us to do and bitch at Sony for crippling themselves.
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Just in case people needed this further disproved:
I hadn't known this (Rocketpig, can you confirm this?) but apparently the Xbox360 does not run HDCP. Therefore, it would be completely possible to capture video via HDMI from the Xbox360.
However, GameTrailers still captures Xbox360 material through component cables, because they want to be fair and they want to use the standard setup available with each and every console and SKU.
Why doesn't Gametrailers use HDMI through the 360, even though they can, and an HDMI cable actually comes with one of the 360 SKUs? Clearly, GT is biased against the 360! They aren't even using everything that comes with the system!
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