Cool Story Bro.

Maybe it worked, and Nintendo were 'allowed' to do it because they innovated and saved their struggling business, whilst Sony went from being the outright winner last gen to trailing in 3rd because of bad business decisions?

Nintendo have made billions from the Wii, whilst Sony have lost billions from the PS3. No-one's 'allowed' a 'pass' for that. It's a great console with great games, and if you believe your OP, it's clear you've never played some of the best games this gen (2 Galaxies, 2 Zeldas, 2 Metroids, 2 Kirby, Xenoblade, MHTri, Goldeneye, NMH to name a few).

As a heads-up, your OP comes off as offensive and un-informed. "Nintendo wins the gen because of innovation and Sony lose because of complacency, I MUST COMPLAIN 5 YEARS LATE!"

Exactly. Sony caught breaks that Nintendo would never get, and people act like Nintendo gets the free ride

I have to take issue with the "Family Console" thing what Nintendo fans wanted was a console that was chock full of as many core games as the NES and SNES for the past two gens, they wanted Final Fantasy back as an exclusive on their console, and I really doubt the fanbase that made the original "Conker's Bad Fur Day" and "Perfect Dark" two of the biggest games of their time were really that concerned with having a family console.  I would say there would only be a handful of Nintendo fans saying after the success of the Super Nintendo and  prior to the success of the Wii as a family console that what they most wanted in Wii was a family console.

I think the ones that defend Nintendo the most on boards are long time Nintendo fans since I don't think the younger or newer gamers would have as much knowledge as most of the bloggers do or as much of a commitment to Nintendo's history.

sales mean little. Gamers aren't on nintendo anymore. they moved when the gamecube was lol. then the wii came out and they loled more. the only reason nintendo sold so much this gen was the casual market surfaced for the first time for consoles. The sad thing is, even though this is true, I will still be marked as a troll and banned from this forum ( again).

but face it.  Nintendo's market this gen is 2 age groups

Kiddies 5-13 and older adults that are 30+ ( and lets face that they probably have kids)  you don't have 17 year old highschool or college students go out and say " lets game i brought my wii" 

sales nintendo will do fine, the gamer market nintendo lost 2 gens straight and most likely next gen as well.

I was getting at something like that.

im a core Nintendo fan and I like the GC better, please dont speak for us all

OT I think what the guy is trying to say, is that Ninty fans kinda gave it a free pass, which is silly. Ninty fans like Ninty games

lol haha

so will this be a 200+ post thread?

lol at some other posts. yeah Nintendo brainwashed us into thinking their games are some of the best out there


who are these new users?

Nintendo did not get lucky with the Wii, i like to see it as they brought something new to the industry that was a breath of fresh air. I mean Playstation 1 ,Playstation 2, Playstation 3 "Yawwwwnnn" and if im not mistaken isnt the Playstation move very Wii like. Nintendo had the balls to try something different and Sony got arrogant and complacent and lost the lead (and a shit load of money). Dont get me wrong i love my PS3,but talk about sour grapes.

Neither Conker's Bad Fur Day nor Perfect Dark ranked particularly high among the "biggest games of their time", your exaggeration is egregious in this case.