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sales2099 said:
its gonna be a needed attachment then.

Its astonishing how Nintendo is so successful yet now remains 7 years in the past business wise.

It really is the more sensible business approach, for them, and for the market. They aren't 7 years in the past, you are.



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mantlepiecek said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Aielyn said:
It's a simple solution to the problem that the 360 and PS3 suffered - 10 different configurations of the console, depending on when you bought it, including 2-3 different configurations at any point in time.

Instead, the Wii U will be the same basic configuration irrespective of when you buy it, but you can connect any HDD you want. Since the HDD is market price, and independent of the system, it becomes trivial for people to buy, say, a 160 GB HDD, and not cause any problems. And the consumer wins, because market forces apply to regular HDDs, whereas specialised HDDs (like the PS3 and 360 use) are controlled by Sony and MS, and thus are not subject to market forces.

The PS3 doesn't use proprietary HDDs like 360, uses 2.5 inch sata laptop HDs. I have an 80gb model, but I use the 500gb HD from my old laptop as well.

The 360 doesn't use proprietary HDDs either. It uses the same HDD the PS3 uses, but there is a convenient covering that helps in ease of removal, and also in pricing it at an arms length.

nah you can purchase them for a "decent" price. not sure about the ones from microsoft itself but who needs that?

http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-320GB-Internal-Slim-Drive/dp/B006NRMBF6/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1339688038&sr=8-10



crissindahouse said:

nah you can purchase them for a "decent" price. not sure about the ones from microsoft itself but who needs that?

http://www.amazon.com/SANOXY-320GB-Internal-Slim-Drive/dp/B006NRMBF6/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1339688038&sr=8-10

That's pretty impressive, I must say.

But the point was not that HDDs cost a lot, it was that it's not proprietary.



mantlepiecek said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

The PS3 doesn't use proprietary HDDs like 360, uses 2.5 inch sata laptop HDs. I have an 80gb model, but I use the 500gb HD from my old laptop as well.

The 360 doesn't use proprietary HDDs either. It uses the same HDD the PS3 uses, but there is a convenient covering that helps in ease of removal, and also in pricing it at an arms length.

That's just plain misleading.

Deep inside that 360 HDD thing there is a standard 2,5" HDD of course. But unlike the PS3, where you can really simply just plug in any 2,5" SATA drive, Microsoft tried its best to force customers to buy their overpriced proprietary crap.

For example, you can't just plug in any 2,5" SATA drive, as it only works with a few select models, most if not all of them being Western Digital drives if I remember correctly.

Furthermore you have to initialize the drive with a special security file etc. so the 360 will accept it etc.

In other words: Unlike the PS3, on the 360 It's all just a dirty hack that Microsoft tried its best to prevent, and it took the hacking community years to develop. Saying that the 360 doesn't use proprietary HDDs is as misleading as saying the 360 runs burned copies of games.

On the actual thread topic: Seems like a good decision to me. The only criticism I have is that I would have preferred if they had reserved room inside the case so that it was ALSO possible to place the drive internally. Simply for the looks. But with 64GB SD cards being quite cheap nowadays and providing enough storage to store over a dozen retail games, I guess in practice that's not going to be much of a problem anyway.



Conegamer said:
*sigh*

You've really set people off again this time, you know! I don't know how you do it...

People seem to be missing the point. 8GB of internal memory is more than enough for 95% of the people who'll be buying the WiiU; i.e. anyone who doesn't frequent a gaming forum. Because most people just wish to save games, and maybe install one or two VC/WiiUWare games. 8GB will be plenty for this. Anyone else will have to use an SD card (which may be included), or a HDD (of which they likely have banging around anyway). The only thing that happens when you don't include a HDD is that you can reduce the price rather significantly (look at the difference in prices of the HD consoles), which is surely a good thing, no?

Just relax, guys. This is a good idea IMO.

I think on the long run, as HDDs get cheaper and cheaper, Nintendo should include them in the system. Reason being, I believe there are more casual audiences interested in digital software than you may think, if Netflix and the likes is any indicator of digital content popularity.

Know what I mean?



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ArnoldRimmer said:

That's just plain misleading.

Deep inside that 360 HDD thing there is a standard 2,5" HDD of course. But unlike the PS3, where you can really simply just plug in any 2,5" SATA drive, Microsoft tried its best to force customers to buy their overpriced proprietary crap.

For example, you can't just plug in any 2,5" SATA drive, as it only works with a few select models, most if not all of them being Western Digital drives if I remember correctly.

Furthermore you have to initialize the drive with a special security file etc. so the 360 will accept it etc.

In other words: Unlike the PS3, on the 360 It's all just a dirty hack that Microsoft tried its best to prevent, and it took the hacking community years to develop. Saying that the 360 doesn't use proprietary HDDs is as misleading as saying the 360 runs burned copies of games.

On the actual thread topic: Seems like a good decision to me. The only criticism I have is that I would have preferred if they had reserved room inside the case so that it was ALSO possible to place the drive internally. Simply for the looks. But with 64GB SD cards being quite cheap nowadays and providing enough storage to store over a dozen retail games, I guess in practice that's not going to be much of a problem anyway.

Ultimately it's the 2.5 inches HDD right? Not something that MS makes it on it's own. So even if it is proprietary, it's because of a software.



Well that guy it's a diehard sony fan. He constantly attacks Nintendo and praises whatever sony does.

But back on topic, I wouldn't bother to have a HDD in the WiiU, I know I will almost don't use it, so no worries for me. However its seems odd from Nintendo to not have one itegrated. Yes you can buy one, but it sucks to have one always connected via USB in the console, it just doesn't look good.



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will wii U read NTFS(huge doubt here since NTFS is a MS file system), fat32, ext3, ext4 or none of them and use a proprietary File System?

will it read partitioned HDDs or will it need to be the whole disk due to safety and piracy measures?

this questions are important as well.



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happydolphin said:
Conegamer said:
*sigh*

You've really set people off again this time, you know! I don't know how you do it...

People seem to be missing the point. 8GB of internal memory is more than enough for 95% of the people who'll be buying the WiiU; i.e. anyone who doesn't frequent a gaming forum. Because most people just wish to save games, and maybe install one or two VC/WiiUWare games. 8GB will be plenty for this. Anyone else will have to use an SD card (which may be included), or a HDD (of which they likely have banging around anyway). The only thing that happens when you don't include a HDD is that you can reduce the price rather significantly (look at the difference in prices of the HD consoles), which is surely a good thing, no?

Just relax, guys. This is a good idea IMO.

I think on the long run, as HDDs get cheaper and cheaper, Nintendo should include them in the system. Reason being, I believe there are more casual audiences interested in digital software than you may think, if Netflix and the likes is any indicator of digital content popularity.

Know what I mean?

Yes, but for launch, 8GB is more than enough for the 'casual' consumer, at least initially. Then when they plummet in price, like USB sticks and SD cards before them (I got a 128MB, that's 1/8th a GB for the 'younger' users, USB stick 8 years ago, and it cost £20), they'll include the HDD, remove the Flash Memory and it'll cost the same.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Wrong thread lol