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Aj_habfan on 07 June 2012

I actually assumed this was pasted from somewhere else, did you do it yourself? It's well written and I like the template, looks pretty professional.



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Ajescent on 07 June 2012
Chark said:
fillet said:
What's the point in this thread may I ask, serious question. Not trolling just don't see the point in pointing out what anyone already knows and trying to make Nintendo and MS look bad like some kind of PR bullshit.

Sorry if you read it like that, I felt odd in framing that information, but those are the facts in comparing the online counterparts between the platforms. The point in this thread is 1.) to share information that might have been lost in Sony's E3 presentation that poorly explained it, and 2.) to answer the question at the end "is this a sustainable business model and if so what impact could this have throughout the industry?"

Don't apologise.

Right now on Gamefaqs and here, there are people who STILL don't know how PS+ works and it's been out for over 2 years. Any piece of info is useful 



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Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

Ajescent on 07 June 2012
homer said:
Chark said:
homer said:
I have a 160gb hard drive and I still won't be able to handle ps plus and i refuse to upgrade my hard drive again because of the crap I went through. I am just going to hunker down and hope I don't run out before the ps4 comes out.


Make sure to "purchase" the free games and download them when you want to play them, allowing you to delete the ones you are done with. Another good trick is to go into game data utility up a little above the trophy colection icon, you should be able to delete any game data and update data files you have, but only delete the ones from games you won't be playing or don't own anymore. These are not the same as saved game files which are in a different folder (do not delete those!),  You might already know all this but others might not. It freed up a few gigs for me.

I know, but won't that get redownloaded by ps plus? Or is that the install data? I wish i could choose what i want it to download so it wouldn't download updates for crap like Home.

Install data takes up more space than patches, delete an install data for a game you no longer play (usually over 1Gb)

Home doesn't get downloaded unless you actually go there.

If you stop using something or use something else in its place, it will stop downloading the item.

e.g I play GT5 last but then deleted the update

PS+ sees I don't have the update for GT5 and tries to update it for me.

delete its last attempt and then use something/play  something else

after you've used 3-5 other items, GT5 will no longer be a priority.



PS One/2/p/3slim/Vita owner. I survived the Apocalyps3/Collaps3 and all I got was this lousy signature.


Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

homer on 07 June 2012
Ajescent said:
homer said:
Chark said:
homer said:
I have a 160gb hard drive and I still won't be able to handle ps plus and i refuse to upgrade my hard drive again because of the crap I went through. I am just going to hunker down and hope I don't run out before the ps4 comes out.


Make sure to "purchase" the free games and download them when you want to play them, allowing you to delete the ones you are done with. Another good trick is to go into game data utility up a little above the trophy colection icon, you should be able to delete any game data and update data files you have, but only delete the ones from games you won't be playing or don't own anymore. These are not the same as saved game files which are in a different folder (do not delete those!),  You might already know all this but others might not. It freed up a few gigs for me.

I know, but won't that get redownloaded by ps plus? Or is that the install data? I wish i could choose what i want it to download so it wouldn't download updates for crap like Home.

Install data takes up more space than patches, delete an install data for a game you no longer play (usually over 1Gb)

Home doesn't get downloaded unless you actually go there.

If you stop using something or use something else in its place, it will stop downloading the item.

e.g I play GT5 last but then deleted the update

PS+ sees I don't have the update for GT5 and tries to update it for me.

delete its last attempt and then use something/play  something else

after you've used 3-5 other items, GT5 will no longer be a priority.

Is there a way to get rid of update data? For example, I don't have GTA 4 anymore. I deleted the install, but do I still have the update data on my hard drive? Also, my ps3 is set to turn on at 2 o'clock to 4oclock. I woke up at 5, and it was still on! Is this normal? I thought it ended at 4. I don't want my ps3 to overheat or stay on too long while I am asleep.



"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius

Chark on 07 June 2012
homer said:

I know, but won't that get redownloaded by ps plus? Or is that the install data? I wish i could choose what i want it to download so it wouldn't download updates for crap like Home.

You can turn automatic updates off in your system settings = Automatic Update. I guess the issue is you'd have to forgo auto updates for system updates and games you actually play, but you could always just bare through the updates as they come. I think if you have the game deleted from your harddrive it won't auto update so you won't have to worry about deleting update files just to have them reinstall later. So for Home as an example, if you are okay with deleting that program itself you won't have to worry about updates taking up space on your HDD either. Though there are certain times even non-Home goers can utilize Home for things.



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oniyide on 07 June 2012
Ajescent said:
homer said:
Chark said:
homer said:
I have a 160gb hard drive and I still won't be able to handle ps plus and i refuse to upgrade my hard drive again because of the crap I went through. I am just going to hunker down and hope I don't run out before the ps4 comes out.


Make sure to "purchase" the free games and download them when you want to play them, allowing you to delete the ones you are done with. Another good trick is to go into game data utility up a little above the trophy colection icon, you should be able to delete any game data and update data files you have, but only delete the ones from games you won't be playing or don't own anymore. These are not the same as saved game files which are in a different folder (do not delete those!),  You might already know all this but others might not. It freed up a few gigs for me.

I know, but won't that get redownloaded by ps plus? Or is that the install data? I wish i could choose what i want it to download so it wouldn't download updates for crap like Home.

Install data takes up more space than patches, delete an install data for a game you no longer play (usually over 1Gb)

Home doesn't get downloaded unless you actually go there.

If you stop using something or use something else in its place, it will stop downloading the item.

e.g I play GT5 last but then deleted the update

PS+ sees I don't have the update for GT5 and tries to update it for me.

delete its last attempt and then use something/play  something else

after you've used 3-5 other items, GT5 will no longer be a priority.

how big is the HOME file?? I have always been curious but i was on the brink with my limited space, now I dont have that problem and want to check it out.



Ajescent on 07 June 2012
homer said:
Ajescent said:
homer said:
Chark said:
homer said:
I have a 160gb hard drive and I still won't be able to handle ps plus and i refuse to upgrade my hard drive again because of the crap I went through. I am just going to hunker down and hope I don't run out before the ps4 comes out.


Make sure to "purchase" the free games and download them when you want to play them, allowing you to delete the ones you are done with. Another good trick is to go into game data utility up a little above the trophy colection icon, you should be able to delete any game data and update data files you have, but only delete the ones from games you won't be playing or don't own anymore. These are not the same as saved game files which are in a different folder (do not delete those!),  You might already know all this but others might not. It freed up a few gigs for me.

I know, but won't that get redownloaded by ps plus? Or is that the install data? I wish i could choose what i want it to download so it wouldn't download updates for crap like Home.

Install data takes up more space than patches, delete an install data for a game you no longer play (usually over 1Gb)

Home doesn't get downloaded unless you actually go there.

If you stop using something or use something else in its place, it will stop downloading the item.

e.g I play GT5 last but then deleted the update

PS+ sees I don't have the update for GT5 and tries to update it for me.

delete its last attempt and then use something/play  something else

after you've used 3-5 other items, GT5 will no longer be a priority.

Is there a way to get rid of update data? For example, I don't have GTA 4 anymore. I deleted the install, but do I still have the update data on my hard drive? Also, my ps3 is set to turn on at 2 o'clock to 4oclock. I woke up at 5, and it was still on! Is this normal? I thought it ended at 4. I don't want my ps3 to overheat or stay on too long while I am asleep.

GAME>>>Game Data Utility>>look for anything GTA4 related>>>triangle>>>delete

yes, if you are downloading/updating/installing something large, the console will stay on longer than necessary to do as much of it as possible. If you don't want it to remain on for that specific session, switch on the console then switch it off again.



PS One/2/p/3slim/Vita owner. I survived the Apocalyps3/Collaps3 and all I got was this lousy signature.


Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

Ajescent on 07 June 2012
oniyide said:
Ajescent said:
homer said:
Chark said:
homer said:
I have a 160gb hard drive and I still won't be able to handle ps plus and i refuse to upgrade my hard drive again because of the crap I went through. I am just going to hunker down and hope I don't run out before the ps4 comes out.


Make sure to "purchase" the free games and download them when you want to play them, allowing you to delete the ones you are done with. Another good trick is to go into game data utility up a little above the trophy colection icon, you should be able to delete any game data and update data files you have, but only delete the ones from games you won't be playing or don't own anymore. These are not the same as saved game files which are in a different folder (do not delete those!),  You might already know all this but others might not. It freed up a few gigs for me.

I know, but won't that get redownloaded by ps plus? Or is that the install data? I wish i could choose what i want it to download so it wouldn't download updates for crap like Home.

Install data takes up more space than patches, delete an install data for a game you no longer play (usually over 1Gb)

Home doesn't get downloaded unless you actually go there.

If you stop using something or use something else in its place, it will stop downloading the item.

e.g I play GT5 last but then deleted the update

PS+ sees I don't have the update for GT5 and tries to update it for me.

delete its last attempt and then use something/play  something else

after you've used 3-5 other items, GT5 will no longer be a priority.

how big is the HOME file?? I have always been curious but i was on the brink with my limited space, now I dont have that problem and want to check it out.

there are about 3 "flavours" 3GB-5GB and 8GB. Depending on how much you intend on using Home, choose the one that best suits you. I went for the 8gb so I could download as much of the spaces as possible. I enjoy home a lot so don't take my word for it as you might not like it.



PS One/2/p/3slim/Vita owner. I survived the Apocalyps3/Collaps3 and all I got was this lousy signature.


Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

Chark on 07 June 2012
KylieDog said:

You got it wrong, every month 2-3 games are removed and 2-3 new ones added. Aside from the the first batch, every game will spend 16 weeks roughly being available, then gets cycled out.

This means any new PS+ subscriber be it some who join today or in a year...instantly gets access to 12 games. Always.

You won't get another bombshell of games in 16 weeks, in 16 weeks the last of the games listed NOW will be cycled out, at that point the 12 games list will be fully different titles to what you see now, and you would have been getting them 2-3 per month.

In Europe there are only 10 games but they get cycled ever 12 weeks, meaning over the course of an entire year actually get 4 more games.


Can you source me this? I can update my OP to match any new information. It's been hard to find, a mistake in my opinion.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

o_O.Q on 07 June 2012
Ajescent said:
fillet said:
What's the point in this thread may I ask, serious question. Not trolling just don't see the point in pointing out what anyone already knows and trying to make Nintendo and MS look bad like some kind of PR bullshit.

Did you make the same comment in the "Nintendo innovates thread"?

lol that shut him up fast