I see what you're saying but I have to go with the new guy. I dont see how Sony could really benefit from making their own HDD for PS3, its too late in game for one. What can they possibly do to intice people to but the SOny one?? Its an HDD, what extra could they do for it. if they sell it for cheaper than whats on the market will they even make money on them??? I doubt it. How does it benefit the gamer?? Very few people care whether it says Toshiba on the thing, Sony or Mattel as long as it works. 

I just updated my HDD, got a bigger one and ill tell you first hand its a pain in the ass. 3 years worth of content having to transfer all of it. and in not even going to get into what you have to do if you have "locked" files. But its still better than the other two, the HDDs are cheap where MS is raping cause they can and Ninty doesnt even have that option.

I'm not saying you have to buy theirs or that it would replace existing hard drives, it's just easier for the casual person who doesn't know what hard drive to hunt down that will work for their Playstation. I bet you some people don't even know it's possible to change their PS3 hard drive. How many people that bought anything 120GB or lower will really be able to enjoy PS+ to it's fullest? I bought a 250GB and I'm maxed right now. If Sony wants PS+ to take off, which after this E3 it really seems like they do, then I don't know why they would skip out on all this potential. 

This is true, i had issues getting a compatible one myself. THe only thing i could figure is Sony might believe their audience might be more knowledgable about these kinds of things or they just dont have the resources to do so right now.

I have a 160gb hard drive and I still won't be able to handle ps plus and i refuse to upgrade my hard drive again because of the crap I went through. I am just going to hunker down and hope I don't run out before the ps4 comes out.

What's the point in this thread may I ask, serious question. Not trolling just don't see the point in pointing out what anyone already knows and trying to make Nintendo and MS look bad like some kind of PR bullshit.

Did you make the same comment in the "Nintendo innovates thread"?

Make sure to "purchase" the free games and download them when you want to play them, allowing you to delete the ones you are done with. Another good trick is to go into game data utility up a little above the trophy colection icon, you should be able to delete any game data and update data files you have, but only delete the ones from games you won't be playing or don't own anymore. These are not the same as saved game files which are in a different folder (do not delete those!),  You might already know all this but others might not. It freed up a few gigs for me.

I agree, I just saw that Gran Turismo 5 was taking up 8.2GB of space...EIGHT POINT TWO!!!!! It had to go!

Sorry if you read it like that, I felt odd in framing that information, but those are the facts in comparing the online counterparts between the platforms. The point in this thread is 1.) to share information that might have been lost in Sony's E3 presentation that poorly explained it, and 2.) to answer the question at the end "is this a sustainable business model and if so what impact could this have throughout the industry?"

I know, but won't that get redownloaded by ps plus? Or is that the install data? I wish i could choose what i want it to download so it wouldn't download updates for crap like Home.