Well, that was uncalled for. 

Still, you are not really getting what I am saying. But I'll just drop this conversation. XD

i posted more you didn't quote my whole post (my mistake) i'm pretty sure god of war would have many fans with average graphics and a game like halo has them as well but i donÄt see uncharted having as much fans as it has with average graphics. i could bet with you that it would have much less fans but this is not possible

and aiming at least in uncharted 2 was much talked about. that's not only me who is saying that. maybe you were ok with it but some thought it could be much better.

don't get me wrong i love uncharted but i really believe graphics didn't help any game as much as uncharted this gen.

They have announced 3 new IPs, takes huge balls to announce new IPs this late in the gen. What new IP did MS and Nintendo announce?? Also, Ive said this million times: I rather have 5 2m sellers, then 1 10m seller. As a gamer you're choosing for having 5 games and 1 game.

Also, Uncharted is one of the biggest games out there, UC2 will pass 6m this year.

nothing else still doesn't show up tho :S well vgc does act weird at times

well we will never know now will we :D graphics are a great tool for marketing tho and I completely agree with that. Every dev who can does make use of that, especially if it's a new IP. But I personally love the series for the graphics and gameplay both.

A: How is it huge balls? They're supposed to make games, nothing to do with balls, and Quantic Dream is third party so when their game releases isn't dictated by Sony.

B: Well that's funny because Microsoft has quite a bunch of 2 million sellers, so you must love them, right? Really keep saying it another million times.

C: How is Uncharted relevant to my post? Am I supposed to be impressed and counter with a "Halo 4 gunna outsell it in a year?"

D: Considering your post history I'm not even sure why I'm trying to argue with you...

I am sure everyone at this point understands that SONY fucked up when they added Bluray and drove the cost way up. It really hasn't shown real solid proof that it was needed, especially since the console comes standard with an HDD. If they chose to leave it out the console would have launched no more than $400 and more likely around the $350 mark.

Even so, people say SONY games don't sell well, but that has proven, over the course of over 15 years now, to be a non factor. While their games may sell just 1M, 2M or 3M and companies like Nintendo have franchises that sell 20M, there is a very good reason why their worst selling console, with "horrible" 1st party sales, is going to finish the generation with over 80M consoles sold.

That for the reason you stated, which is that they keep their fanbase satisfied by bringing them a little bit of everything. That is why they continue to do so well despite not having that super duper record shattering blockbusters in their 1st party repetoire.

yes sony has more ip's (if you don't count arcade or kinect which i see as fault (at least some arcade)) but with 70 million people owning the console but only 1-2 million purchasing many games it seems like even sony fans are only really interested in gt, uncharted, gow and maybe something else.

see, many sony fans are like "we have all the great games" but i wonder why they don't buy them if they think they are so great. same with me, i could play so many sony ip's but at the end i don't play more sony as microsoft ip's. because like most others, i just don't care about resistance as example.

count all the small ip's together and you still don't have on average one game for every playstation owner.

i dont know but i would say 80-85% of sold games are multi-plat games. so we only speak about the 15-20% rest and there, one has maybe an advantage against the other but is this really important for most gamers? no it isn't.

every year i get more games i wish to play than i ever could. so even if a console would not only have one own ip i could still not play all games i want to. the difference is that i can pick a little bit better ones on average but that average doesn't increase a lot.

Can someone answer this?

If multiplats sell worse on ps3 and exclusives too, why don't their console sales reflect that?

i believe the ratio is almost the same isn't it? some multi-plats sell much better for ps3, as example football games.

Blu-Ray players?

My thinking is that 

old time 360 players are now jumping on the PS3 bandwagon but because they already have achievements/friends list, they want to keep that going, at least that's why my cousin doesn't want to move to a PS3.