Zucas said: Well Uncharted comes from Resident Evil 4, so I think we should call it the RE4ization of modern games as it is truly the basis for most modern day games... especially 3rd person ones.

No Pong laid the foundation of all future games

AndrewWK said: Zucas said: Well Uncharted comes from Resident Evil 4, so I think we should call it the RE4ization of modern games as it is truly the basis for most modern day games... especially 3rd person ones. No Pong laid the foundation of all future games

Hahaha cute.

Everything is heavily scripted...
What a crock

Developers just hate my guts , now you will see an increase in my rantings going up ten folds.

CGI-Quality said: Zucas said: Well Uncharted comes from Resident Evil 4, so I think we should call it the RE4ization of modern games as it is truly the basis for most modern day games... especially 3rd person ones. Have to disagree here. Uncharted felt nothing like RE4. If anything, the only Uncharted title even similar in perspective was Among Thieves, and that's truly having to grasp (with its over-the-shoulder camera - but Uncharted's was still fully 3D while RE4's was not). If anything, Gears of War felt more like RE4 than any Uncharted title. Regardless, even though Uncharted offers much of its own bits and pieces, it is nothing but an upping of previously successful ideas with Naughty Dog's polish and talent.

Well of course it isn't exactly like it haha.  I would hope a game made in 2007 wouldn't feel like a game made on a system 2 years earlier on older hardware haha.  It's exactly as you said at the end... it ups "previously successful ideas with Naughty Dog's polish and talent".  I also wouldn't argue that Uncharted or Gears of War play like RE4.  All 3 have different mechanisms and atmospheres.  But the inspiration, I think, clearly comes from RE4.

Seriously Uncharted is in no way the mother of any kind of game mechanic.

It's almost a direct Tomb Raider clone with a little more focus on TPS than on solving puzzles and exploring the environment. Cinematic TPS have been done before too. Cover system TPS has been done before too.
And obviously Tomb Raider is VERY close to Indiana Jones. But they failed to improve the mechanics after the fourth game or so, so it was only a matter of time that a similar game would use all these ideas and bring them to current gen standards.

It's just that Uncharted was one of the earlier TPS to adapt the modern mechanics (still behind Gears and Ghost Recon though for example).

AndrewWK said: Aj_habfan said: I thought Uncharted was a Tomb Raider clone, now Tomb Raider is an Uncharted clone... What? Uncharted was inspired by Indiana Jones, not Tomb Raider. It has almost nothing in comon with Tomb Raider.

Let's see.  So, if Tomb Raider never existed, do you seriously think Naughty Dog would of got a green light by Sony to do Uncharted?  You actually believe this?

For a game that has "almost nothing" to do with the Tomb Raiders, it is interesting how Uncharted got the nickname "Dude Raider" on forums around the Internet.  Really "almost nothing"?

You know, someone can get inspired by a prior franchise and outdo it, to where it becomes king.  There are reasons why people think now that the latest Tomb Raider has been inspired by Uncharted, because Uncharted, flat outdid what Tomb Raider did.  Similar happened with Unreal Tournament taking the FPS title from Quake.  It happens.

I am actually amazed seeing Tomb Raider this way. I have played almost all TR games (maybe skipped Underworld) and now I can see how much the game has changed. I like the tense moments of the game rather than the dull exploration of previous games. So, Unchartedization is a good thing imo...

Good. That's what I wanted.

Barozi said: Seriously Uncharted is in no way the mother of any kind of game mechanic. It's almost a direct Tomb Raider clone with a little more focus on TPS than on solving puzzles and exploring the environment. Cinematic TPS have been done before too. Cover system TPS has been done before too. And obviously Tomb Raider is VERY close to Indiana Jones. But they failed to improve the mechanics after the fourth game or so, so it was only a matter of time that a similar game would use all these ideas and bring them to current gen standards. It's just that Uncharted was one of the earlier TPS to adapt the modern mechanics (still behind Gears and Ghost Recon though forexample).

I don't think most are saying that Uncharted spawned this style, just that it heavily influenced it. Much like Gears of War undoubtly made cover systems standard in third-person shooters, even though Gears wasn't the first third-person shooter with a cover system.

This gen, a lot of franchises are becoming more actiony, cinematic & scripted. This probably would have happened even without the influence of Uncharted, but you can NOT deny that the massive critical success of Uncharted has greatly encouraged many other developers to follow suite.

*awaits Slimebeast's post*