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Google/Apple 63 70.79%
 
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Mr Puggsly said:

I believe the articles saying Apple has 10% of the PC market are just looking at the US. I'm having trouble finding a world market share because those articles include iOS devices. Basically, the internet is a clusterfuck of articles boasting about Apple and not giving the information I'm actually looking for. Anyhow, MS has been promoting Windows 8 for about a year now. The release of that should boost PC sales.

You're correct. Devices like the iPod, iPhone and iPad were successful primarily because they were better than the competition. However, when those devices launched the competition wasn't very good to begin with. Now that strong competition appeared, Apple is losing market share fast in the mobile market. Hence, Apple did amazing in markets with weak competition. But they never proved they can be a powerhouse in a market that already has strong competition.

Apple's televisions aren't just going to be competing with cheaper televisions. But they also have to compete with devices that connect to the television. AppleTV needs to do more than give us access to streaming media and play some games. So I'm curious to see what Apple has up their sleeve.

This article claims that Apple crested 5% worldwide PC share in September of 2011:

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/11/17/explosive-growth-takes-the-mac-to-over-5-global-market-share/

You'll also note that they control 14% of the worldwide PC profit. Given how badly Mac's marketshare worldwide is dragged down by developing nations, that's still an impressive number. Overall, I don't see how they could have done much better with any of their major lines (Mac, iPod, iPhone, iPad) over the past decade, particularly their Mac line. As you said, the iOS markets lacked strong competition. But in the PC market, Apple has made impressive in-roads into an extremely competitive and budget-based marketspace. They've done it through staying ahead of the curve in design and implementation.

Again, the iTV/AppleTV will need to really hit the market hard with good ideas and innovative content. Is Apple up to the task? Dunno, but given how they've been barn-storming almost every other market they've entered in the past 15 years, it's good bet they have something up their sleeve.

I think the real question concerning Apple is "Will they have any ideas in a post-Jobs world?" I think the iTV will do well; Steve had a strong hand in its primary development. Apple is strong only because they stay ahead of the competition by thinking outside the box. It's how people justify the additional expense of their products. But without a strong hand guiding their way through new product lines with fresh new thinking, they become just another Sony. And that would spell disaster for the company.




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rocketpig said:

This article claims that Apple crested 5% worldwide PC share in September of 2011:

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/11/17/explosive-growth-takes-the-mac-to-over-5-global-market-share/

You'll also note that they control 14% of the worldwide PC profit. Given how badly Mac's marketshare worldwide is dragged down by developing nations, that's still an impressive number. Overall, I don't see how they could have done much better with any of their major lines (Mac, iPod, iPhone, iPad) over the past decade, particularly their Mac line. As you said, the iOS markets lacked strong competition. But in the PC market, Apple has made impressive in-roads into an extremely competitive and budget-based marketspace. They've done it through staying ahead of the curve in design and implementation.

Again, the iTV/AppleTV will need to really hit the market hard with good ideas and innovative content. Is Apple up to the task? Dunno, but given how they've been barn-storming almost every other market they've entered in the past 15 years, it's good bet they have something up their sleeve.

I think the real question concerning Apple is "Will they have any ideas in a post-Jobs world?" I think the iTV will do well; Steve had a strong hand in its primary development. Apple is strong only because they stay ahead of the competition by thinking outside the box. It's how people justify the additional expense of their products. But without a strong hand guiding their way through new product lines with fresh new thinking, they become just another Sony. And that would spell disaster for the company.

I'm reluctant to believe Apple even has a 5%  PC market share. I mean throw in the custom builds, piracy, etc... its hard to keep track of it all. Ultimately, their PCs are profitable and that's the goal.

I'll end on that. I've made my points and now we just have to wait and see what happens.



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Wow, this thread. People seem to forget that we would have no Apple without Microsoft (The designed many of the early programs, and Bill Gates gave Apple a $200 Million 'loan' in the 90's to save it.) While yes, there is a rivalry, and they usually have some lawsuit going back and for they still work together and they both benefit.

Microsoft and Apple work more together more than apart. Yes, the Iphone/Ipad has been a hit for Apple, and while MS has it own table OS coming out this fall, they decided to embrace the Apple devices as well as Droid (Google). So the Xbox will work through, Smart Glass, with both Apple and Google.

Sony has been making PC that run Windows, working with Microsoft, for years. Sony Music, along with others, has it’s own app on Xbox live – Vevo.

Goggle’s Youtube is on both X360 and PS3.

So while the Xbox and the PlayStation fans sometimes hate each other, the companies often work together.

Microsoft is opening it’s Xbox to both the Droid and Apple tablet/phones. It’s a rather amazing and potentially future changing move.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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