Heck he said and not me. And as long as Sony has a dev team like Naughty Dog on their side, I'll give the edge to them as far as first parties go.

But alot of people bought replacement consoles because of RROD. I know guys on their 3rd and 4th Xboxes, and each of them bought the slim.

A lot of people when for the cheaper system, with at the time, more games despite the fact it may not stay running more than 4 months, max. And let's admit: the first 2 1/2 years of the PS3 were rough. Some people even sold their BC PS3's for another 360.

Looking back, that was dumb.

It effected both companys though.Do you really think that everyone who got rrod bought another xbox instead of just repairing it or buying a ps3?

I'm not saying nobody did but Ylod was a big thing too and i'm not ranting on about that, though not as big, 2 out of the 3 mates who had launch ps3's that I know of got it and they bought new ps3's. The RRoD excuse is just that. An Excuse. It hindered M$ more than anything and damaged thier reputation. You're still using it as an excuse now and RRoD has been errelavant for years now! That shows how much reputation M$ would have lost and in turn, possible consumers.

While this is more likely than 720>Wii U + PS4, I think a 60:40 split is also unlikely. My feeling (in fact my hope) is that none of the consoles are dominant next gen. Stiff competition among consoles is the best thing, and that means fairly even sales across all 3. I hope all 3 consoles take between 28% and 35% market share on an approx. 250 million unit global market.

Fact is despite MS having lots of money brand Xbox is not a major source of profits for MS. This means there's not much business justification for throwing tons of money at promoting Xbox other than making it a sustainable brand in console gaming. It's worth investing a decent amount in promotion to keep Xbox growing but they aren't going to outspend Sony or Ninty by orders of magnitude. They might outspend $2:$1, but not $10:$1 it's simply not justifiable to do so, and to achieve 720>PS4+WiiU would require something like a $10:$1 spend I would think. There's no compelling reason for people to move from PS / Wii to Xbox, so that means MS having to spend lots of money convincing people to do so.

I do know people who bought a 360 who would rather have bought a PS3 if the PS3 was at a comparable price at launch, but the up front price difference at the time was compelling enough for them to buy against their preference. I don't know anyone who bought a PS3 but would rather have bought a 360. That tells me, anecdotally, that by and large people who've bought PS3 are hihgly likely to buy a PS4, but depending on timing and launch price there's a proportion of people who bought 360 who are likely to by PS4, or who are at least 50/50 on which way they will go.

I don't have a good sense of where early Wii buyers are going to go. Did many end up buying a 360 after a few years? I know a few people who bought a Wii then followed up with 360 (and Kinect), and I know one or two who went Wii --> PS3. Maybe there has been a bit of the old Michael Pachter "HD upgrading" going on in the last 2 years. It seems from sales patterns if there has been HD upgrading going on PS3 has benefited as much as 360; albeit 360 benefitting more in the Americas / UK and PS3 benefiting more almost everywhere else. I do think Nintendo has lost some market share potential for Wii U, but if 360 has created an advantage for MS over PS/Sony in the HD upgraders segment of the market I don't think it's a huge or global advantage.

These 2 points stand out the most to me. People complain about the Xbox Live fee, but to me its reassuring that microsoft is making that much more money instead of losing money because they aren't struggling financially. 

That's why I don't mind ads, the more money m$ makes, the more assured I feel that they'll be around and able to support their next gen system. 

YLOD was only like 10% of PS3s and RRoD was wipespread. MS said at one point every system was at risk for faliure. And RRod is far from irrelavent as it was one of the worst faliures in electronics history. Had Ps3 not been 400-500 bucks, everyone would have jumped ship. MS got a bit lucky.

You know that for a fact do you? "MS said at one point every system was at risk for faliure . You didn't really provide a link or anything....

"And RRod is far from irrelavent as it was one of the worst faliures in electronics history." Is my point. You think that wouldn't of hurt sales? A massive international company going public about their own products problem? Everyone would have been fine buying a new one? Yeah, common sense.... It makes none.

No. The vita goes for a whole different market. Someone like me for instance isn't in this market. I don't own a Vista, nor a PSP, nor any other handheld console. You have to understand who each piece of hardware is targeted towards. You can't compare and say that Sony didn't learn from their mistake. What mistake really? Coming out later than the 360? Cause it isn't sales, it won each year in sales to that of the 360 with being a year behind and will overtake the 360 later this year in sales. So again, what should they have learned from? Not many people seem to understand that if the 360 launched at the same time, they would be behind by 4-5 times the number the PS3 is down. PSP had issues that the PSV has, so seems like consoles and handhelds are on different footing.

Wat! Releasing later than the 360 isn't a mistake, but if they didn't they would be in a considerably better position?

That's it I'm done, goodbye world. 

Maybe in the US and UK. I doubt that mostly every other country in the world will see a Microsoft system in any place but third.