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So How much money do you think MS has made?

10 billion - 29 billion 49 44.95%
 
30 billion - 49 billion 13 11.93%
 
50 billion - 69 billion 25 22.94%
 
70 billion - 89 billion 9 8.26%
 
90 billion - 109 billion 13 11.93%
 
Total:109
TWRoO on 30 May 2012
thranx said:
bouzane said:
The Xbox brand lost Microsoft over 9 billions dollars before it started to turn a profit a couple years ago. I'd say that the 360, without the original Xbox factored in, has pretty much broken even.


i think kowenki has a thread with some of te info but i am pretty sure that the 360 has been a money maker. Not barely broken even but generating some good profit. I could be wrong will see if i can find the thread.

The Xbox division* lost somewhere in the region of $4 billion... the X360 R&D and initial hardware loss meant a $1.3 billion loss in the first year, then further hardware losses plus the RROD thing meant a further $2 billion loss... I suspect the X360 then also lost about $3.5 billion, but turned it around so they have been profiting for the last 4 years... I haven't checked for the most recent fiscal stuff for MS but that division will be somewhere between -$3 billion and -$4 billion in the red.... which means if you take the XB out of the equation the X360 is between break even and $1 billion profit.

*As mentioned earlier this is not solely for the XB brand, but I think it does constitute most of it.



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thranx on 30 May 2012
TWRoO said:
thranx said:
bouzane said:
The Xbox brand lost Microsoft over 9 billions dollars before it started to turn a profit a couple years ago. I'd say that the 360, without the original Xbox factored in, has pretty much broken even.


i think kowenki has a thread with some of te info but i am pretty sure that the 360 has been a money maker. Not barely broken even but generating some good profit. I could be wrong will see if i can find the thread.

The Xbox division* lost somewhere in the region of $4 billion... the X360 R&D and initial hardware loss meant a $1.3 billion loss in the first year, then further hardware losses plus the RROD thing meant a further $2 billion loss... I suspect the X360 then also lost about $3.5 billion, but turned it around so they have been profiting for the last 4 years... I haven't checked for the most recent fiscal stuff for MS but that division will be somewhere between -$3 billion and -$4 billion in the red.... which means if you take the XB out of the equation the X360 is between break even and $1 billion profit.

*As mentioned earlier this is not solely for the XB brand, but I think it does constitute most of it.

I would consider 1 billon in profit good profit. Wish i could find that thread. But i had no luck.



Lostplanet22 on 30 May 2012
thranx said:
TWRoO said:
thranx said:
bouzane said:
The Xbox brand lost Microsoft over 9 billions dollars before it started to turn a profit a couple years ago. I'd say that the 360, without the original Xbox factored in, has pretty much broken even.


i think kowenki has a thread with some of te info but i am pretty sure that the 360 has been a money maker. Not barely broken even but generating some good profit. I could be wrong will see if i can find the thread.

The Xbox division* lost somewhere in the region of $4 billion... the X360 R&D and initial hardware loss meant a $1.3 billion loss in the first year, then further hardware losses plus the RROD thing meant a further $2 billion loss... I suspect the X360 then also lost about $3.5 billion, but turned it around so they have been profiting for the last 4 years... I haven't checked for the most recent fiscal stuff for MS but that division will be somewhere between -$3 billion and -$4 billion in the red.... which means if you take the XB out of the equation the X360 is between break even and $1 billion profit.

*As mentioned earlier this is not solely for the XB brand, but I think it does constitute most of it.

I would consider 1 billon in profit good profit. Wish i could find that thread. But i had no luck.


Not up to date though:



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136006&page=1#



 

TWRoO on 30 May 2012
thranx said:
TWRoO said:
thranx said:
bouzane said:
The Xbox brand lost Microsoft over 9 billions dollars before it started to turn a profit a couple years ago. I'd say that the 360, without the original Xbox factored in, has pretty much broken even.


i think kowenki has a thread with some of te info but i am pretty sure that the 360 has been a money maker. Not barely broken even but generating some good profit. I could be wrong will see if i can find the thread.

The Xbox division* lost somewhere in the region of $4 billion... the X360 R&D and initial hardware loss meant a $1.3 billion loss in the first year, then further hardware losses plus the RROD thing meant a further $2 billion loss... I suspect the X360 then also lost about $3.5 billion, but turned it around so they have been profiting for the last 4 years... I haven't checked for the most recent fiscal stuff for MS but that division will be somewhere between -$3 billion and -$4 billion in the red.... which means if you take the XB out of the equation the X360 is between break even and $1 billion profit.

*As mentioned earlier this is not solely for the XB brand, but I think it does constitute most of it.

I would consider 1 billon in profit good profit. Wish i could find that thread. But i had no luck.

Well there is this, but it's out of date: http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=19625436&postcount=90



endimion on 30 May 2012

hmm pretty sure xb360 has been profitable for a couple years now... xb if i recall was 4billion in the red i havee no clue where kinect is with r&D cogs and advertising exp vs net profit.... but the real question is how much in the red zune player was.... plus those calculation are biased... it fails to consider that 1 expense in r&d might not be exclusively for the future.... what technical know how they gained... time value of money also etc.... any how out of the three with all the other sectors considered MS is leading by light years in net income operating income etc etc except sony in revenue but that's because a 50 inch plasma sells for way more than anything from MS.... and the xb or any media box is the future of global entertainment and casual computing.... so MS has no choice but to stay.... especially with google and apple hitting hard on other sectors...



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Epic_Bro_Fist on 30 May 2012

Well with people spending an average of 84 hours per month on the Xbox I would assume that Microsoft is making a killing with the ads that they started running on the dashboard.

http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox/news-xbox/average-user-84-hours-month-xbox-360.html



crissindahouse on 30 May 2012

150 hours the month watching tv on average? wtf? ok most people work, let's say from 8am to 5-6pm (in germany), they have to drive to work and back which eats some time as well. so the average person comes home and watches tv the rest of the day and goes to bed then (with a bit fucking before sleeping)? yes i know there are people not working anymore, jobless and kids but still, this is insane.



radishhead on 30 May 2012

I'm pretty sure I saw a graph that suggested it would be about $1 billion by now - MS and Sony lost a LOT of money at the start of the gen - it's hard to put it into perspective



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Lostplanet22 on 30 May 2012
crissindahouse said:

150 hours the month watching tv on average? wtf? ok most people work, let's say from 8am to 5-6pm (in germany), they have to drive to work and back which eats some time as well. so the average person comes home and watches tv the rest of the day and goes to bed then (with a bit fucking before sleeping)? yes i know there are people not working anymore, jobless and kids but still, this is insane.

Well you don't have to be active watching it :).   It happens a lot that i come home turn on my tv and don't do it out until I go to bed. 



 

SeductiveReasoning on 30 May 2012
Lostplanet22 said:
crissindahouse said:

150 hours the month watching tv on average? wtf? ok most people work, let's say from 8am to 5-6pm (in germany), they have to drive to work and back which eats some time as well. so the average person comes home and watches tv the rest of the day and goes to bed then (with a bit fucking before sleeping)? yes i know there are people not working anymore, jobless and kids but still, this is insane.

Well you don't have to be active watching it :).   It happens a lot that i come home turn on my tv and don't do it out until I go to bed. 

I have a lot of friends who don't really *watch* TV, but will always have it on for "background noise."

Also there's some overlap in those numbers as I know quite a few people who watch Netflix via their 360s.  That 84 hours on the console may not be 84 hours of game playing.